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Jean Steinberg on the power cast this

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week we're back with a special guest

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co-host you like being a special guest

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co-host he's Jay Randall Murphy now a

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last week's episode of the power cast we

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omitted the Jay and I've been corrected

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about that omission right Randall well I

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did mention it in our discussion

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afterwards yeah briefly it's what I

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prefer for introductions but after that

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that's fine my god his name was Joseph

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and so is mine and actually there are a

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few people that call me by my first name

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and I've been that way for as long as I

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can remember so well thanks a lot gene

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for going that route today we can't call

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you Joe though some people do most

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people know me is around alone well some

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people call me things too but I really

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can't say any of them on commercial

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radio and that's one thing I want to

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talk about here fake news and hate now

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obviously emotions get high and any

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field where there are lots of

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differences of opinion there's active

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discussion is over the power cast forums

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we'd like you to visit them at forum

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daata the power cast icon and we have

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people who argue about UFOs are they et

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are they interdimensional are they

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secret weapons or some combination

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thereof is it part of the multiverse

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lots of possibilities are debated very

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very active debates occurred with regard

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to UFO abductions so when we had dr.

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David Jacobs on the power cast a couple

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of years back the discussions got pretty

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intense they get too intense we have to

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sometimes tone it down over there in the

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forms but emotions were high when Nick

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Redfern wrote his book Body Snatchers in

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the desert back in 2005 suggesting a

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human experiment

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was responsible for Roswell they really

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went after him with a vengeance a lot of

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people because he would not adhere to

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the Roswell mean which is it involved a

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spaceship they saw bodies of aliens you

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get the picture then more recently we

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see that Kevin Randall kind of recanted

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on Roswell mostly saying he couldn't

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prove the existence of bodies based on

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the evidence he couldn't say

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definitively it seems to be something

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from elsewhere so we have to consider

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the possibilities all right so more and

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more people now I think are seeing that

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maybe Roswell is less than we expect it

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to be or maybe at least the evidence is

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not as compelling and remember that

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evidence didn't arrive until 30 years

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after the fact Samak is pretty difficult

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before I go on Randall what's your

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opinion about Roswell right now

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well I think that we can safely say that

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at least we know with respect to Roswell

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that something did happen in other

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instances we have nothing but someone's

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word for it or we touched briefly on the

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Aztec incident on the last episode as

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well and how there's really virtually

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nothing but with Roswell we did have a

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genuine press release from the air base

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saying that they had retrieved one of

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these flying discs and there was

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something picked up I think we can be

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pretty sure of that although we haven't

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actually seen the material we've seen

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pictures of the alleged material and

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then the combination of cover-ups and

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witness testimony and deathbed

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confessions and a number of other things

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there's just too much there to say that

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nothing happened so we know that much I

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don't think that we can say it was a

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mogul balloon looking at case from that

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angle I went back and checked the

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weather records from the date in

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question and the winds were blowing in

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completely the wrong direction from the

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launch point of the mogul project in

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those days so I really don't see how

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could be one of those was it some sort

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of alien craft that's a possibility I

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don't think we can just

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scout that was it interstellar I'm not

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sure I think we have to differentiate

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between the ETH in general and something

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interstellar basically we have something

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that's that explains now I understand

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that the use of the word flying disk may

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not necessarily mean what does now you

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get my point that in those days they

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didn't necessarily think of that as

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flying saucer because this only happened

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what very shortly after the Kenneth

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Arnold sighting and very shortly after

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they started using flying saucer for

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example a flying disc may not

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necessarily mean what we think it means

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that's quite possible and it was used of

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course in the papers and it became

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popularized by the Arnold sighting and

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so on but the way that it became

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popularized was in the minds of the

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general population who began to view it

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as the most reasonable explanation for

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what was going on

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given the times there was really not

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much other explanation for such advanced

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technology going on and we were

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beginning to look at the space race as

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something - as a possibility so

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everybody's mind was kind of on that and

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then it evolved into kind of a common

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concept it well it seems like that's

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probably where they're from but we also

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believe we had the findings of project

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sign well more current like concurrently

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with that and they even according to the

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records that we have from back then from

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people who were there concluded that

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they were interplanetary as well so or

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at least probably interplanetary and at

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the time they were thinking maybe Venus

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and of course Sagan came along and

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disproved that but that doesn't mean

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that they may not be from someplace else

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something someplace interstellar it

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seems to be the most reasonable

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explanation for those types of advanced

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craft from my perspective that doesn't

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mean we don't have other things going on

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though I think there's a wide variety of

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phenomena that don't necessarily fit

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into the alien crafts category my point

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and it's a

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that I've spent more time considering in

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recent years is that at least some of

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the early UFO sightings

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we're not sightings of strange craft

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there were sightings of secret weapons

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in fact my old friend Jim Mosely

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originally advocated the earth theory

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and you know later on he went to what he

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calls the three and a half or four and a

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half deep theory but if you look at it

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this possibility here that flying

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saucers may have been used as an excuse

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to cover a military experiment so you

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say it's flying saucers most people may

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assume it's just something weird and

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ignore it a few people may believe it's

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spaceships but they certainly won't

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necessarily realize what it really is

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so it might been used as a means of

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disinformation doesn't mean there are no

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flying saucers but that's one

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possibility so absolutely and I'm seeing

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evidence of that now just to point out

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here a little bit later Chris Rutkowski

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rejoins us on the power cast and he's

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also co-author of a book called when

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they appeared Falcon Lake 1967 the

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inside story of a close encounter

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now the co-author of the book is Stan

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metallic of someone at the center of the

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story so this is something that we're

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going to really want to hear more about

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because these old cases are more and

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more difficult to research because of

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the people who were involved may be

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getting very old they may no longer be

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around and thus getting the facts is

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more and more difficult so certainly I

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want to see what Chris has to say about

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that and see where this case stands in

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the pecking order there you go now

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before I mentioned fake news and hate

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news now just mention this very briefly

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as you know some people out there stalk

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other people and write hate speech about

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them and you know they'll take something

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that maybe you superficially factual and

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they'll embellish it and they'll make it

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worse

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I see that you know I've seen that for

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me for the past few years for a lot of

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reasons I assume anyone who gets in the

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public eye encounters that in the old

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days I used to work for AOL by the way

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that just trying to get a paycheck have

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and they went crazy but nowadays when

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they do this kind of hate speech it's

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nothing more than fake news and if you

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see it don't feed it ignore it if you

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ignore it maybe they'll go away

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Chris Bukowski is joining us shortly J

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Randall and we've got Chris Witkowski

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Chris hello I will ask him to do the

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voice later later yeah I think doing a

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news flash gordon film I heard I don't

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know I actually haven't heard it would

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be about time they have Flash Gordon TV

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show on for maybe a year I think was

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sci-fi channel and they had him instead

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of going to another planet he went to

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the planet through a dimensional

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portal well I can understand some of the

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the earlier stuff was pretty wacky so

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why not well some of those features some

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of the spaceships were down right at

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move absurd but and they look like

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horizontal rocket ships and of course

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they kicked out smoke yeah and it was

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well great be sci-fi stuff matter of

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fact I picked up an old DVD set with

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about five or six of them on there and

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you can really see how the later sci-fi

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series like Star Trek actually developed

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and evolve

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out of them you've got the viewing

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screens on the wall and the captain's

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chair and the science stations and so on

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and it's all in black and white and of

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course the rocket like you say gene goes

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across the on a wire with smoke coming

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out of the back I just you know they

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were they were as real to me is the

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plastic and and plasticine dinosaurs

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yeah those things are a lot of fun to

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watch some of those things in retrospect

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because they really like you say they

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set the pace they set the tone for a lot

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of what was to come and they continue

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using that kind of rocket ship through

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the early 50s and some of the movie

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serials yes absolutely and of course we

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had Republic Pictures at the time they

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had decent flying scenes like you had a

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movie called The Adventures of Captain

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Marvel and Captain Marvel of course was

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the big rival to Superman but now they

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call him Shazam this could be a Shazam

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movie soon well that's the one I was

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thinking of Shazam movie that's right

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right where young Billy Batson takes his

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magic ring and he rubs it and says

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Shazam and he takes on the power of the

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world's mightiest mortal Captain Marvel

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mm-hmm and even though the prevalent

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form of interstellar travel was a rocket

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ship with the fins and everything the

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film Forbidden Planet which is widely

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billed as the forerunner to Star Trek

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because it had all the elements and it

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actually had a flying saucer as its

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spacecraft so that threw a wrench into

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things too and made us sort of predated

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everything and to think here at Leslie

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Nielsen before he became funny

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was the first Captain Kirk indeed that

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is funny actually it's true I mean the

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Captain Kirk character whether he did

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consciously or not Shatner had

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similarities was of course Shatner is

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reacting style is a little different

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although you can see traces of it in

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Nielson when you go back and watch

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Forbidden Planet if it's all there oh

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yeah this is before he was funny we

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didn't know he was funny until airplane

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came out then we realized he was very

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very funny and evidently I didn't live

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too far from him in his final years he

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lived in Scottsdale Arizona

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where I lived at the time but I never

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encountered him oh well there we go and

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of course he also was Canadian just to

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point that out once again Shatner yes no

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and Leslie Nielsen Leslie Nielsen and

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Shatner were both Canadians all right

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yeah yeah

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so Canadians had a big hand in predating

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and the the the science fiction that

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everybody grew up in but mr. Spock

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Leonard Nimoy was a nice Jewish boy from

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Boston that's true

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that being that particular part of the

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country is not super far from the

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Canadian border no no that that that is

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also admittedly true you see you know

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that's how it goes

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plus all the superhero shows now on CW

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TV are filmed in Canada that's right

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they're all in fact I know a few people

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who are extras in some of those that

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they keep popping up in things like

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legends of tomorrow and arrow and things

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like that so yeah the Canadians continue

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to have an influence over science

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fiction and maybe ufology too yes

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they're all filmed in Vancouver some are

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filmed in Toronto there you go I don't

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know why we're talking about this let's

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just catch up on a couple of things

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before we go to Falcon Lake Chris first

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of all you were Once Upon a Time one of

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the members of the Roswell dream team

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before it fractured and fell apart right

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I was invited many years ago to be part

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of this because I suppose of my know

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generally not I wouldn't say an outright

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skeptical attitude about the whole thing

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but because I was more skeptical than

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some of the other people on the team I

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was invited to add a little bit of

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balance a little bit rationality and

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common sense and that's probably why

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they dropped me eventually yeah we can't

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have any of that especially in wake of

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the Roswell slides but what do you think

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of the fact that more and more we're

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seeing that the evidence for Roswell is

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less certain that used to be I'm

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thinking of Kevin Randall's book Roswell

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in the 21st century

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absolutely and Kevin of course was the

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one who originally invited me on behalf

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of the group to be part of that and it's

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interesting that you know he's

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less than an hour with the possibility

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of crashed alien saucers and things like

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that now so it certainly is a quite a

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change from what you know the trend had

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been let's say about 25 years ago some

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people of course are still maintaining

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rather doggedly that it still could be a

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crashed saucer of some sort but you know

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the evidence for it is really not as

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good as one might one might really want

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and that's one of the problems and as a

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matter of fact I know we're gonna be

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talking about Falcon Lake soon but the

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what I'm the point I make with Falcon

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Lake is that it's a much better UFO case

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than Roswell and on a number of reasons

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that we can get into when we start

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talking about Falcon Lake so is Roswell

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the case that we'll never solve oh I'm

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sure I mean the witnesses and even the

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witnesses kids

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I have largely passed on it's it's gonna

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be very very circumstantial from here on

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end because we simply don't have the

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smoking gun we don't have the documents

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we don't have even a good idea of

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exactly where this happened to pinpoint

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it on a topographic map so there are so

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many issues involved in this that I

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really doubt whether we'll get

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absolutely to the bottom of what

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happened at Roswell long ago far away

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convincing I don't know if we should

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believe anything he says Jean sounded

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we've had him on before I'm still here

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you know he can help me deal with all

646
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the hate speech out there all the fake

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news what have they been doing Jean what

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are they been saying I haven't even been

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keeping up you know you might know

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that's it I don't the answer is here

651
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they take someone's misfortunes sake

652
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I'll be very brief they exaggerate the

653
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misfortunes find the negatives about it

654
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and just spread hate no gosh and you

655
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know this is not unusual so I don't want

656
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to dignify them with anything more

657
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specific let's just leave it at that

658
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let's get on with stuff here before we

659
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explore Falcon Lake and why it's more

660
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compelling because of the availability

661
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of information that can be verified than

662
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Roswell Kris what's happening currently

663
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:47,510
in the world of UFOs in Canada still

664
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seeing quite a few sightings each year

665
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oh absolutely in fact the 2016 Canadian

666
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UFO survey found again more than one

667
00:29:00,180 --> 00:28:58,310
thousand cases last year I think was

668
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somewhere around close to 1,200 again

669
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showing that you're talking about a

670
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about three cases a day somewhere in

671
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Canada I think one of the most

672
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:08,540
significant you may have seen the video

673
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from a few days ago there was a flare

674
00:29:18,430 --> 00:29:15,310
test over Lake Ontario that was widely

675
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seen by a lot of people across both the

676
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United States and Canada right along the

677
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border and that the Canadian Air Force

678
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had told everybody you know it wasn't

679
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wasn't aliens it was just us and I have

680
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:29,480
to tell you I'm the the flare drop looks

681
00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:33,290
very similar to some other video of UFOs

682
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:36,470
in the sky attributed to lights in the

683
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sky mile long craft and so forth so I

684
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,630
think we'll be hearing a lot more debate

685
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:44,240
about that but the video itself is just

686
00:29:48,270 --> 00:29:45,760
starting to make the rounds and it's

687
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:48,280
it's quite interesting how good does it

688
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:49,030
look to you

689
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oh well it's it's you know it shows the

690
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skyline and it shows something like ten

691
00:30:01,740 --> 00:29:58,780
or eleven lights and a rough formation

692
00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:01,750
hovering over the city and it's

693
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:04,060
reminiscent of some other lights that

694
00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:06,610
have been proposed as UFOs so it's I

695
00:30:11,610 --> 00:30:09,190
think that a lot of comparisons will be

696
00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:11,620
made in the in the coming weeks well we

697
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:13,240
look forward to more information any

698
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:15,250
other sightings and note you know again

699
00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:17,440
the sighting continue to be reported and

700
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:20,470
in fact what's happening very recently

701
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:23,370
is that we're hearing more and more

702
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:27,490
reports from long ago being reported in

703
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:29,050
other words people will see something on

704
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:31,690
television they'll see some some reports

705
00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:34,330
in media of some discussions and they'll

706
00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:35,680
say you know III hadn't seen anything

707
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:37,630
recently but that reminds me you know

708
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,530
back when I was a kid I remember seeing

709
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:42,640
something very similar what had been

710
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:45,010
recorded recently so we're getting a

711
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:47,890
flurry of cases from the past which is

712
00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:49,750
not uncommon we do get these from time

713
00:30:55,050 --> 00:30:53,140
to time to a significant case we'll have

714
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:55,060
people latch onto them not from personal

715
00:31:00,330 --> 00:30:57,010
experience of something directly

716
00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:00,340
relatable to that case but from years

717
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:02,980
ago so for example with running the

718
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:05,560
Falcon Lake Falcon Lake cases a much in

719
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:06,910
the media right now for a number of

720
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:09,340
reasons and again we'll get to that but

721
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:12,310
there's a whole series of reports that

722
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:14,710
are now being filed by people saying

723
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:18,070
back in 1967 when I was really young I

724
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:20,200
too saw something in this guy that I

725
00:31:25,530 --> 00:31:23,410
couldn't explain and people are trying

726
00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:25,540
to connect personally to some of these

727
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:27,670
classic cases and it's interesting that

728
00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:29,890
again things are resonating through

729
00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:32,230
people's memories in history and I'm

730
00:31:37,170 --> 00:31:33,790
getting a lot of emails from people

731
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,180
saying do you have anything from 1994 in

732
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:40,320
Nova Scotia or do you have a case from

733
00:31:47,010 --> 00:31:43,840
1973 that may have happened in Squamish

734
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:47,020
BC things like that because people are

735
00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:48,580
just you know they're finding a

736
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:51,640
connection from not from something

737
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:52,930
that's happening today but something

738
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:55,510
that happened long ago in problem of

739
00:31:59,680 --> 00:31:57,610
course I guess is the same as with

740
00:32:02,320 --> 00:31:59,690
Roswell the longer

741
00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:02,330
it passed between the event and the

742
00:32:07,810 --> 00:32:04,940
recollection the more difficult it is to

743
00:32:10,390 --> 00:32:07,820
get accurate facts right even when

744
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:10,400
somebody says I saw the exact same thing

745
00:32:16,990 --> 00:32:13,910
that year that month well if you can't

746
00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:17,000
pin down the day or the time and you're

747
00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:19,220
in a somewhat different location it's

748
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:21,860
unlikely it was the same thing but the

749
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:24,250
point is that people their memories are

750
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:26,450
you know they're fading with time but

751
00:32:31,270 --> 00:32:28,610
enough of it was important back then to

752
00:32:33,820 --> 00:32:31,280
make them remember it with enough

753
00:32:36,250 --> 00:32:33,830
clarity that it's still stuck in their

754
00:32:39,340 --> 00:32:36,260
minds all these years yeah and I think a

755
00:32:41,290 --> 00:32:39,350
lot of UFO reports tend to do this I

756
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,300
mean they they make it quite an

757
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:43,360
impression on people you get people who

758
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:45,890
see an object I remember a case going

759
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:51,760
back into the 1980s where I had been

760
00:32:59,290 --> 00:32:55,690
contacted or phoned by Frell sorry a

761
00:33:02,950 --> 00:32:59,300
person who gave me a call and he said

762
00:33:05,530 --> 00:33:02,960
you know I saw something last night and

763
00:33:10,270 --> 00:33:05,540
it made a really big impression on me

764
00:33:12,790 --> 00:33:10,280
and I would you like to see what I what

765
00:33:16,420 --> 00:33:12,800
I created in its response and I said

766
00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:16,430
sure well he pulled out a canvas of a

767
00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:20,140
painting and this person had been

768
00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:23,900
somewhat of an artist and I had you know

769
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:25,640
produce paintings of various things over

770
00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:27,890
the years and what's interesting is that

771
00:33:33,910 --> 00:33:30,950
he had seen a he was driving on the

772
00:33:37,150 --> 00:33:33,920
trans-canada highway through an isolated

773
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:37,160
area in Manitoba and there was something

774
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:38,810
like three or four o'clock in the

775
00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:40,640
morning not many cars on the road and

776
00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:45,320
this object flew over the highway and

777
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:48,800
was disc shaped completely glowing

778
00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:51,290
the yellow object flew over the highway

779
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:53,870
and then stopped over the field next to

780
00:33:58,540 --> 00:33:55,970
the highway he actually stopped his car

781
00:34:00,340 --> 00:33:58,550
got out watched it hovering over the

782
00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:00,350
field for a while and watched as this

783
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:02,380
thing slowly moved over the field

784
00:34:10,210 --> 00:34:07,760
towards towards some civilization some

785
00:34:11,860 --> 00:34:10,220
town not too far away it made such an

786
00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:11,870
impression on him that he went home

787
00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:14,270
immediately

788
00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:16,940
and set up as canvas and right then and

789
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:19,820
there started painting what he had seen

790
00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:22,990
now how often would that possibly happen

791
00:34:30,010 --> 00:34:27,020
that we have known and not a cell phone

792
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:30,020
photo but an actual painting of a UFO

793
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:31,610
that made such an impression that

794
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:33,650
somebody took the time to to create it

795
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:35,570
so it was fresh in his mind he could

796
00:34:40,570 --> 00:34:37,850
show other people what he had seen very

797
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:40,580
fascinating what sounds they're still

798
00:34:45,490 --> 00:34:42,890
continuing do we see any of the kind of

799
00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:45,500
Close Encounters we had early on with

800
00:34:50,770 --> 00:34:48,230
the so called electromagnetic effects

801
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:50,780
and stuff like that actually no in fact

802
00:34:55,810 --> 00:34:54,290
I had a I was doing an interview with a

803
00:35:01,060 --> 00:34:55,820
reporter just this morning about the

804
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:01,070
Edwin Fuhr case from 1974 your listeners

805
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:05,480
may remember it or in some books where

806
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:10,250
there's these since the green grass was

807
00:35:19,290 --> 00:35:16,450
pushed down in circles caused by five

808
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:19,300
bowl-shaped objects that he had seen

809
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:23,710
this was a fellow who was in Landon burg

810
00:35:31,090 --> 00:35:28,130
Saskatchewan he was cutting the some of

811
00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:31,100
the wheat and grass and saw what he

812
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:34,100
thought were duck blinds not too far

813
00:35:38,530 --> 00:35:35,450
away because it was common in this

814
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:38,540
particular area for people to set up

815
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:42,020
their blinds so they could shoot at the

816
00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:44,630
ducks and geese a little bit better and

817
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he climbed on top of his tractor and saw

818
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that these were upside-down bowl-shaped

819
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:51,740
silver objects that were spinning very

820
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very rapidly in the grass he watched

821
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them for a few minutes and then they

822
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,050
slowly one by one took off into the sky

823
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and gave off little puffs of smoke and

824
00:36:09,790 --> 00:36:06,110
flew away and when he went to inspect

825
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these areas they were swirled patches in

826
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:12,380
the grass that he couldn't explain that

827
00:36:18,490 --> 00:36:15,350
were completely mysterious reported to

828
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the RCMP the National Research Council

829
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:22,580
of Canada investigated the the Center

830
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for UFO studies came up

831
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:28,579
Hynek came up as well to talk with him

832
00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:32,210
it was you know quite remarkable these

833
00:36:39,609 --> 00:36:36,230
were very remarkable traces found on the

834
00:36:42,309 --> 00:36:39,619
grass in fact they predated crop circles

835
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:42,319
by a considerable length of time let's

836
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continue that our next segment with

837
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Chris root Kowski catching up J Randall

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Murphy's our guest co-host you're in the

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[Music]

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this is a skirt 70 author you have a

942
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mystery Jane you're listening to the

943
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parrot yes Randall's trying to become

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another a younger Ming the Merciless but

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he's not merciless enough he'll get

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there he'll get there

947
00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:34,969
oh yeah Chris Bukowski is talking to us

948
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,160
let's continue about that sighting you

949
00:41:41,729 --> 00:41:39,440
started in the previous segment right

950
00:41:45,699 --> 00:41:41,739
edwin fuhrer landon burg saskatchewan

951
00:41:48,789 --> 00:41:45,709
1974 the traces were studied in great

952
00:41:50,829 --> 00:41:48,799
detail samples were taken and sent to

953
00:41:51,789 --> 00:41:50,839
Ottawa for analysis I know they were

954
00:41:56,410 --> 00:41:51,799
thought that perhaps they were

955
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:56,420
radioactive but they were not and what's

956
00:42:02,170 --> 00:42:00,319
interesting is that Edwin if you're was

957
00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:02,180
well liked and well known in the

958
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community a very amicable kind of fellow

959
00:42:09,999 --> 00:42:07,880
not the type to make a a lot of

960
00:42:11,979 --> 00:42:10,009
practical jokes certainly didn't benefit

961
00:42:14,739 --> 00:42:11,989
from this in fact right at harvest time

962
00:42:16,449 --> 00:42:14,749
it caused a big disruption so it caused

963
00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:16,459
more inconvenience than anything else

964
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:20,420
Phil clasp himself actually talked with

965
00:42:28,059 --> 00:42:23,599
me about him he said that he had

966
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:28,069
supposed to he had spoken with a pastor

967
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of a small church in the community and

968
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according to Phil class this particular

969
00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:36,410
pastor had said that oh yes

970
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:39,109
Edwin Furio you know had done some

971
00:42:42,579 --> 00:42:40,670
practical jokes in the past so that's

972
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:42,589
probably what this was and that was good

973
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:44,390
enough for Phil class to label it all

974
00:42:48,089 --> 00:42:45,430
the complete hoax

975
00:42:52,539 --> 00:42:48,099
the National Research Council of Canada

976
00:42:54,910 --> 00:42:52,549
their expert Peter Millman he didn't

977
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:54,920
personally investigate the site but I

978
00:42:59,680 --> 00:42:57,920
was actually at a conference of

979
00:43:03,519 --> 00:42:59,690
scientists where he gave a presentation

980
00:43:06,009 --> 00:43:03,529
about this and he declared that the land

981
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:06,019
berg crop traces were nothing more than

982
00:43:12,849 --> 00:43:10,569
fairy ring mushrooms and that was that

983
00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:12,859
what's curious is that there's

984
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:16,670
absolutely no way that fairy ring

985
00:43:20,829 --> 00:43:17,930
mushrooms could have caused these

986
00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:20,839
because I happen to know mycologists

987
00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:22,390
quite well

988
00:43:28,980 --> 00:43:25,120
the fairy ring mushrooms do create rings

989
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:28,990
in grass usually lawns and take several

990
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:32,560
years to create traces of any particular

991
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:37,810
size and are never found in long grasses

992
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:41,440
and crops of the order of you know 1 2 3

993
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:44,470
4 5 feet in height so it was a

994
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:46,810
completely ludicrous explanation

995
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:49,510
proposed by scientists who really should

996
00:43:53,370 --> 00:43:51,370
have known better and whether that

997
00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:53,380
suggests that you know there is a

998
00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:56,020
cover-up in effect or scientists are so

999
00:44:00,930 --> 00:43:57,910
closed-minded that they won't even look

1000
00:44:04,010 --> 00:44:00,940
at facts it caused quite a concern and

1001
00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:04,020
in fact boosted the case more than

1002
00:44:07,890 --> 00:44:06,190
suggesting there was something less

1003
00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:07,900
mysterious to it because of the fact

1004
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,390
that these explanations really didn't

1005
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:12,400
account for any of the facts that were

1006
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,790
presented it's like a swamp gas same

1007
00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:17,440
type of thing I mean if you look at the

1008
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:20,230
picture of the swirled grass you can see

1009
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:22,450
it's plainly swirled grass it's a large

1010
00:44:26,610 --> 00:44:24,550
patch there's no mushrooms involved in

1011
00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:26,620
this at all and the other thing about

1012
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:28,780
this that actually impress is me is that

1013
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:30,970
you're not seeing some complex

1014
00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:32,890
geometrical pattern with you know

1015
00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:34,150
somebody's signature in the lower

1016
00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:37,420
left-hand corner you're just seeing some

1017
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:39,670
flattened grass that looks like maybe

1018
00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:41,650
something landed there that was spinning

1019
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:44,440
yeah and that's all it was and I said it

1020
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:46,750
predated the crop circles by a number of

1021
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:50,170
years sinc they started in England well

1022
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:53,170
they actually started in Canada in fact

1023
00:44:59,610 --> 00:44:56,370
there's a case that dates back in the

1024
00:45:02,190 --> 00:44:59,620
1960s that perhaps we'll have time to

1025
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:02,200
talk about where crop circles were

1026
00:45:07,470 --> 00:45:04,690
actually investigated by the Royal

1027
00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:07,480
Canadian Air Force and we have their

1028
00:45:13,170 --> 00:45:11,080
report of their four studies so Canada

1029
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:13,180
once again you know this is the Canadian

1030
00:45:17,130 --> 00:45:15,010
show gene where we're showing that

1031
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:17,140
Canada is really pulling its chops here

1032
00:45:22,170 --> 00:45:20,050
do we see any differences sometimes you

1033
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:22,180
do with different cultures do you see

1034
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:24,130
any difference between Canadian UFO

1035
00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:26,770
cases and United States UFO cases or

1036
00:45:30,930 --> 00:45:28,420
there are they too close together in

1037
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:30,940
terms of details yeah I think we'd have

1038
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:32,970
to say that the border is pretty

1039
00:45:37,450 --> 00:45:35,210
permeable when it comes to

1040
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:37,460
- UFO cases you know we have the same

1041
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:40,450
distributions of nocturnal lights and

1042
00:45:46,359 --> 00:45:43,490
they like disks and so forth we have the

1043
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:46,369
monthly trends one effect I was looking

1044
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:50,240
at Cheryl Kostas data that's just been

1045
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,410
published she went through new forks

1046
00:45:59,710 --> 00:45:56,960
cases and them and you know got some

1047
00:46:02,829 --> 00:45:59,720
trends for down to the county for

1048
00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:02,839
example in some cases and there

1049
00:46:12,190 --> 00:46:06,940
certainly is a latitude effect in that

1050
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:12,200
there's a less pronounced increase in

1051
00:46:17,049 --> 00:46:15,200
the summer months in the southern United

1052
00:46:18,549 --> 00:46:17,059
States than there is in the northern

1053
00:46:23,799 --> 00:46:18,559
United States and in Canada of course

1054
00:46:26,890 --> 00:46:23,809
because of the the climate so that where

1055
00:46:29,859 --> 00:46:26,900
there's many more UFO reports in Canada

1056
00:46:31,690 --> 00:46:29,869
in the summer there's the the peak isn't

1057
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:31,700
as strong in the southern United States

1058
00:46:35,770 --> 00:46:34,010
so there are some things like that

1059
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:35,780
but in terms of the actual description

1060
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:38,270
of things that are reported it's very

1061
00:46:42,549 --> 00:46:41,839
very similar of course we have porous

1062
00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:42,559
borders

1063
00:46:46,809 --> 00:46:45,230
that's why absolutely absolutely it's

1064
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:46,819
all about the borders if we had some

1065
00:46:50,829 --> 00:46:49,010
border control the UFOs would be

1066
00:46:52,299 --> 00:46:50,839
different yeah if we had some sort of

1067
00:46:54,339 --> 00:46:52,309
wall or something I don't know maybe

1068
00:46:55,950 --> 00:46:54,349
they should work on that

1069
00:46:58,180 --> 00:46:55,960
speak to your president about that

1070
00:46:59,020 --> 00:46:58,190
Jeanne see let's see if he can do

1071
00:47:02,880 --> 00:46:59,030
something about it

1072
00:47:06,849 --> 00:47:02,890
I'm sorry that logic has too many walls

1073
00:47:09,970 --> 00:47:06,859
impacting it so you are co-author of a

1074
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:09,980
book Chris called when they appeared

1075
00:47:16,329 --> 00:47:13,970
Falcon Lake 1967 the inside story of a

1076
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:16,339
close encounter but tell us first about

1077
00:47:24,339 --> 00:47:20,930
your co-author well my co-author is Stan

1078
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:24,349
mahalik and Stan mahalik is the stunt is

1079
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:29,119
the son of Stephan mahalik who is who

1080
00:47:37,660 --> 00:47:32,930
was the the prime witness in a classic

1081
00:47:40,839 --> 00:47:37,670
case from May of 1967 in fact this past

1082
00:47:44,890 --> 00:47:40,849
weekend was the 50th anniversary of this

1083
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:44,900
particular case and in celebration we

1084
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:47,460
had a number of things up here in Canada

1085
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:51,090
on May the 19th for example we had the

1086
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:53,490
screening of a movie about UFO was

1087
00:47:59,870 --> 00:47:56,640
called UFOs a secret history produced by

1088
00:48:03,920 --> 00:47:59,880
David Cherney ACK the the producer

1089
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:03,930
actually came he flew into Winnipeg for

1090
00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:06,110
the screening to a sold-out

1091
00:48:12,550 --> 00:48:09,870
standing-room-only house and there was a

1092
00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:12,560
panel discussion following the movie and

1093
00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:16,740
the the Falcon Lake case with featuring

1094
00:48:20,750 --> 00:48:18,390
a recreation of the event with mr.

1095
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:20,760
mahalik is it was part of that

1096
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:22,410
particular films that's why it was

1097
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:24,810
chosen the panel discussion was with

1098
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:28,050
myself and Stan mahalik talking about

1099
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:32,310
the case long ago and then on the

1100
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:36,210
Saturday was the launch of the book at a

1101
00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:40,730
bookstore here in Winnipeg in Canada

1102
00:48:49,330 --> 00:48:44,670
they had set out chairs for around a

1103
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:49,340
hundred people and around 200 showed up

1104
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:53,910
completely clogging the aisles the book

1105
00:48:58,660 --> 00:48:56,250
itself sold out within the first five

1106
00:49:04,040 --> 00:48:58,670
minutes even before the event started

1107
00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:04,050
and then on the Sunday out at Falcon

1108
00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:07,230
Lake which is about about an hour and a

1109
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:11,550
half east of Winnipeg along the Ontario

1110
00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:16,710
border a ranch out is there it was

1111
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:18,990
actually taking people on guided tours

1112
00:49:25,820 --> 00:49:23,760
by horseback to the actual site and then

1113
00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:25,830
in the evening there was another public

1114
00:49:31,850 --> 00:49:27,870
presentation which was again completely

1115
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:31,860
sold out with standing room only and it

1116
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:33,930
was just it was just overwhelming to see

1117
00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:35,970
the public interest in a case that was

1118
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:40,590
50 years old and still so so prominent

1119
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:43,680
in so many people's minds now compared

1120
00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:47,400
to Roswell what makes this shall we say

1121
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:51,590
more credible in terms of evidence well

1122
00:49:58,700 --> 00:49:55,530
not just Roswell but I know my

1123
00:50:01,150 --> 00:49:58,710
colleagues in out in Nova Scotia aren't

1124
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:01,160
gonna like this all that much because

1125
00:50:05,290 --> 00:50:02,930
that claim was at shag harbour as

1126
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:05,300
Canada's best-known and best-documented

1127
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:11,210
UFO case and it's also from 1967 but I

1128
00:50:17,890 --> 00:50:12,770
believe that the Falcon Lake case is

1129
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:17,900
better because it was a known witness

1130
00:50:24,070 --> 00:50:20,450
witness cooperated and he continued to

1131
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:24,080
be interviewed for many years until his

1132
00:50:31,690 --> 00:50:28,960
death the the Royal Canadian Air Force

1133
00:50:34,660 --> 00:50:31,700
investigated the Royal Canadian Mounted

1134
00:50:38,860 --> 00:50:34,670
Police investigated the United States

1135
00:50:41,890 --> 00:50:38,870
Air Force had sent a number of people

1136
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:41,900
from the University of Colorado through

1137
00:50:48,970 --> 00:50:45,440
the Condon committee to investigate up

1138
00:50:50,970 --> 00:50:48,980
here in Canada and the case was also

1139
00:50:56,590 --> 00:50:50,980
investigated by a number of authorities

1140
00:50:58,750 --> 00:50:56,600
the witness has had medical injuries he

1141
00:51:03,130 --> 00:50:58,760
was treated in hospital and by doctors

1142
00:51:05,140 --> 00:51:03,140
we have the medical records we have the

1143
00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:05,150
records and all the documents from the

1144
00:51:08,590 --> 00:51:06,590
Royal Canadian Air Force we have the

1145
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:08,600
records from the Royal Canadian Mounted

1146
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:12,110
Police as well as documents from the

1147
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:15,890
Condon committee and there were physical

1148
00:51:22,510 --> 00:51:19,510
traces at the site as well in fact now

1149
00:51:25,450 --> 00:51:22,520
level of radiation significantly above

1150
00:51:28,990 --> 00:51:25,460
background was found at the site this is

1151
00:51:30,910 --> 00:51:29,000
Falcon right at Falcon Lake Manitoba

1152
00:51:33,370 --> 00:51:30,920
Canada right the reason I asked you that

1153
00:51:35,110 --> 00:51:33,380
it'll be clear in the next segment we

1154
00:51:38,070 --> 00:51:35,120
got more to come with Chris Rutkowski

1155
00:51:48,980 --> 00:51:38,080
about the Falcon Lake case with Gene and

1156
00:51:59,560 --> 00:51:52,930
you are listening to GCN

1157
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:59,570
visit GCN live.com today ray perkins a

1158
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reclusive veteran burned out from the

1159
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gulf war lives tortured by relentless

1160
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:07,460
perplexing nightmares nightmares of a

1161
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horrific battle in deep space and of a

1162
00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:11,930
mysterious woman suffering an agony for

1163
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:14,630
her devastated world a woman not yet

1164
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:18,370
born calling across centuries to him

1165
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then a coincidence leads him to his

1166
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destiny his chance to alter the universe

1167
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science-fiction tradition love or loathe

1180
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him Donald J Trump is our 45th president

1181
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there is no denying now that Trump will

1182
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go down in history

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1187
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truck silver statue bust is hand cast

1188
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from 20 troy ounces of silver a great

1189
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investment from trumps silver statue

1190
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1191
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piece of Trump's legacy get your solid

1192
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1193
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1194
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worry about than just making their

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1196
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1197
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when it stops working this summer or

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worse a major plumbing problem with

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national home you can say goodbye to

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repair bills if you own a home you could

1201
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more costly repair bills call 888 seven

1207
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1208
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1209
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eight hundred eight eight seven three

1210
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[Applause]

1211
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:10,140
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1212
00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:14,480
standard of paranormal radio and now

1213
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:23,430
here's Jane Steinberg hey it's the para

1214
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:25,650
cast with Chris Bukowski and Shay

1215
00:54:30,109 --> 00:54:27,450
Randall Murphy and we're talking about

1216
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:30,119
Falcon Lake in connection with this book

1217
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:31,380
and I can barely pronounce the

1218
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:34,440
co-authors name Stan metallic metallic

1219
00:54:41,780 --> 00:54:37,410
yes metallic the books were when they

1220
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:41,790
appeared now this is 67 the conning

1221
00:54:46,550 --> 00:54:44,670
committee was just really in not in

1222
00:54:49,130 --> 00:54:46,560
operation that much longer after that

1223
00:54:52,130 --> 00:54:49,140
right right they stopped sending out

1224
00:54:53,630 --> 00:54:52,140
investigators in about 68 or so so this

1225
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,640
was towards the end but it still

1226
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:55,200
appeared in the in the Condon report

1227
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:58,410
case 22 and we have all the

1228
00:55:02,359 --> 00:55:00,000
documentation we have the official

1229
00:55:05,089 --> 00:55:02,369
records there was radiation found

1230
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:05,099
actually out at Falcon Lake at the site

1231
00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:08,880
and not only that a year after the case

1232
00:55:13,579 --> 00:55:11,640
mr. mahalik went back out sort of on his

1233
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:13,589
own one-year anniversary of the case

1234
00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:15,510
just because he still couldn't believe

1235
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:17,550
what had happened to him he did some

1236
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:21,440
digging and found more radioactive

1237
00:55:27,530 --> 00:55:24,150
materials in fact he found several

1238
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:27,540
pieces of radioactive metal that had

1239
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:29,849
been turned over to the Canadian Air

1240
00:55:34,730 --> 00:55:31,530
Force and the Royal Canadian Mounted

1241
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,740
Police and also to atomic energy of

1242
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:37,680
Canada which is the Acadian equivalent

1243
00:55:44,359 --> 00:55:41,010
of the the other nuclear agencies in the

1244
00:55:48,740 --> 00:55:44,369
United States and they did analysis of

1245
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:48,750
these particular pieces of metal and we

1246
00:55:54,370 --> 00:55:51,839
actually still have one of those pieces

1247
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:54,380
of metal in fact it's sitting in a

1248
00:56:00,859 --> 00:55:58,079
inside a glass Bell on my dining room

1249
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:00,869
table and it is still quite radioactive

1250
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:04,050
my my cats are positively glowing when

1251
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:06,089
they walk by it so if it's radioactive

1252
00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:09,240
do you have it shielded yeah the the

1253
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:13,020
glass actually shunts most of the

1254
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:17,010
harmful rays away so it's relatively

1255
00:56:19,170 --> 00:56:18,960
safe i I don't recommend people carrying

1256
00:56:20,490 --> 00:56:19,180
it

1257
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:20,500
in their pockets for any length of time

1258
00:56:24,990 --> 00:56:23,050
oh so what would you say to those who

1259
00:56:26,819 --> 00:56:25,000
like I know when I was looking into the

1260
00:56:29,089 --> 00:56:26,829
case I did some background on the

1261
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:29,099
geology in the area and there are

1262
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:32,410
natural occurring radioactive deposits

1263
00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:36,790
there so I'm just wondering how much you

1264
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:39,720
did to look in to see if well maybe

1265
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:42,220
that's a factor that might have been

1266
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,839
overlooked because I know when I do read

1267
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,520
about it I don't see anybody going to

1268
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:47,440
that length and checking that out well

1269
00:56:53,730 --> 00:56:50,050
actually that that was investigated

1270
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:53,740
quite extensively in fact the the

1271
00:56:58,290 --> 00:56:55,930
Manitoba Department of Mines and natural

1272
00:57:00,900 --> 00:56:58,300
resources thought that the radiation

1273
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:00,910
level was so high above background

1274
00:57:05,970 --> 00:57:03,609
despite the deposits there that they

1275
00:57:09,059 --> 00:57:05,980
considered closing the entire provincial

1276
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:09,069
park because of health hazards that were

1277
00:57:14,220 --> 00:57:11,410
perceived and again we have the

1278
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:14,230
documentation that attests all this and

1279
00:57:20,730 --> 00:57:17,230
as for these pieces of metal these are

1280
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:20,740
not chunks of radioactive materials as

1281
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:23,710
such the piece that is currently still

1282
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:26,799
in in our possession is about 4 inches

1283
00:57:35,329 --> 00:57:31,000
long and is made of almost pure silver

1284
00:57:39,809 --> 00:57:35,339
the silver has radioactive materials

1285
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:39,819
attached to it embedded in it because

1286
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:42,960
the silver has been melted this is

1287
00:57:49,370 --> 00:57:46,510
completely not natural there's no way

1288
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:49,380
that this could be considered natural

1289
00:57:57,089 --> 00:57:53,770
again any way shape or form so there

1290
00:58:01,049 --> 00:57:57,099
really is no no natural explanation for

1291
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:01,059
this so this is looking gun or what well

1292
00:58:06,539 --> 00:58:03,010
it's a very interesting case and you

1293
00:58:08,910 --> 00:58:06,549
know in comparison with with Roswell and

1294
00:58:10,890 --> 00:58:08,920
shag harbour a number of others I mean

1295
00:58:12,329 --> 00:58:10,900
we know exactly where this is as a

1296
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:12,339
matter of fact I mentioned in an earlier

1297
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:15,609
segment that there's actually a you know

1298
00:58:18,690 --> 00:58:17,650
horseback rides it and it's an isolated

1299
00:58:21,059 --> 00:58:18,700
area that's why you have to go and by

1300
00:58:24,809 --> 00:58:21,069
horseback in fact I went out with

1301
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:24,819
Stanley holic my co-author just a couple

1302
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:28,510
of weeks ago it's a good 45 minute to an

1303
00:58:33,570 --> 00:58:29,440
hour

1304
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:33,580
ride into the wilderness on some pretty

1305
00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:36,690
rough terrain I mean the horses have to

1306
00:58:40,830 --> 00:58:39,790
scamper up rocky ridges and things like

1307
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:40,840
that you have to be a pretty decent

1308
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:45,610
writer to to get up there it's not for

1309
00:58:49,950 --> 00:58:48,460
the beginner or novice for sure but it

1310
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:49,960
takes a while to get there on horseback

1311
00:58:57,630 --> 00:58:54,610
so it's in a very isolated area to think

1312
00:58:59,730 --> 00:58:57,640
that something you know that that you

1313
00:59:04,740 --> 00:58:59,740
know silver could be melted in any

1314
00:59:06,990 --> 00:59:04,750
quantity in an isolated area in 1967 and

1315
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:07,000
then become radioactive because of

1316
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,090
materials if it's a hoax this is easily

1317
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:12,640
something that makes billy meier look

1318
00:59:19,650 --> 00:59:16,240
like child's play it's it's just an

1319
00:59:22,500 --> 00:59:19,660
amazing an amazing series of coincidence

1320
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:22,510
and events and other cases would there

1321
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:24,610
be anything conventional in terms of

1322
00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:28,180
some kind of test that went wrong from

1323
00:59:31,740 --> 00:59:30,220
the government well this is what's quite

1324
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:31,750
interesting and and I should probably

1325
00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:33,730
tell the story so that your readers get

1326
00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:36,100
a good idea of what we're talking about

1327
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:39,220
here I mean the case has been recreated

1328
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:42,040
on unsolved mysteries both in the

1329
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:44,530
original and in the the the second

1330
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:47,710
series it's been produced on a and E's

1331
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:50,530
unexplained I know that sightings

1332
00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:53,440
recreated it as well and we have been

1333
00:59:58,830 --> 00:59:56,260
involved as advisors in the in the

1334
01:00:03,450 --> 00:59:58,840
production of these recreations and what

1335
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:03,460
happened was back in May of 1967 mr.

1336
01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:07,450
Stefan mahalik traveled all the way up

1337
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:09,790
to Falcon Lake to do some amateur rock

1338
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,370
counting he was a nature lover and he

1339
01:00:20,940 --> 01:00:15,040
was a very interested in in minerals and

1340
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:20,950
and rocks so he left the night before or

1341
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:23,320
got there early in the morning from his

1342
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:27,490
motel and walked into the bush on foot

1343
01:00:34,290 --> 01:00:29,920
he had already stayed claims because

1344
01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:34,300
this area has like like Chris was

1345
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,660
mentioning that it's rich and not just

1346
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:39,040
radioactive materials but there's lots

1347
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:41,110
of quartz veins that lead to silver and

1348
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:43,410
gold there's a gold mine not that

1349
01:00:49,460 --> 01:00:47,520
away from here as well and he was

1350
01:00:51,770 --> 01:00:49,470
spending the entire morning looking at

1351
01:00:55,059 --> 01:00:51,780
rocks not chipping away and he stopped

1352
01:00:59,240 --> 01:00:55,069
at lunchtime and I was eating his lunch

1353
01:01:02,390 --> 01:00:59,250
on a sort of a small Boulder that was

1354
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,400
surrounded by some bushes and as he's

1355
01:01:08,539 --> 01:01:04,559
finishing up front he was packing up his

1356
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,549
lunch all of a sudden some geese took

1357
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:10,799
off from a small lake that was down

1358
01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:13,440
below him he was on a ridge a very rocky

1359
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:16,950
ridge in the forest and it was sort of

1360
01:01:22,730 --> 01:01:19,530
overlooking a small pond has been

1361
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,740
created by a beaver dam and these geese

1362
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:24,480
suddenly took off and he was concerned

1363
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:26,010
that perhaps there were bears in the

1364
01:01:30,770 --> 01:01:28,650
area so he was looking around didn't see

1365
01:01:34,329 --> 01:01:30,780
any bears but something was shining in

1366
01:01:38,270 --> 01:01:34,339
the sky and as he watched to

1367
01:01:42,890 --> 01:01:38,280
saucer-shaped objects came down from the

1368
01:01:45,289 --> 01:01:42,900
the sky they were red in color and one

1369
01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:45,299
remained fairly high up in the sky the

1370
01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:49,260
other one descended and ended up landing

1371
01:01:57,410 --> 01:01:54,630
or at least hovering over a rocky ridge

1372
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:57,420
only about a hundred and fifty feet away

1373
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:01,200
from him he crouched down behind this

1374
01:02:06,049 --> 01:02:04,319
this small Boulder to watch what he

1375
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:06,059
thought was completely impossible

1376
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:09,599
because it looked nothing else like then

1377
01:02:16,190 --> 01:02:12,569
a flying saucer from the movies it was

1378
01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:16,200
disc shaped it was about 35 feet in

1379
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:18,750
diameter about eight to ten feet high

1380
01:02:25,250 --> 01:02:21,750
with the dome bright purple lights

1381
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:25,260
coming out of some slits and openings in

1382
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:26,609
the upper part of this thing

1383
01:02:30,829 --> 01:02:29,369
and it had started cooling down as the

1384
01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:30,839
way he described it because it was going

1385
01:02:35,779 --> 01:02:33,839
down from red to orange and then a dull

1386
01:02:38,839 --> 01:02:35,789
color and eventually was the color of as

1387
01:02:43,519 --> 01:02:38,849
he described it hot stainless steel and

1388
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:43,529
then just became a silverish color he

1389
01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:46,529
said he couldn't see any joints or

1390
01:02:52,010 --> 01:02:48,809
rivets it was completely smooth a

1391
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:52,020
completely circular flying saucer not

1392
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:53,760
more than a hundred and fifty feet away

1393
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:00,480
now considering they have radioactivity

1394
01:03:12,410 --> 01:03:05,760
involved I'm thinking of Rendlesham I'm

1395
01:03:17,790 --> 01:03:12,420
thinking of the cash line from case any

1396
01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:17,800
radioactive impact of note well one of

1397
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:21,550
the problems with with this is that mr.

1398
01:03:27,900 --> 01:03:23,940
mahalik didn't think in terms of of

1399
01:03:31,410 --> 01:03:27,910
aliens at all in fact until he passed on

1400
01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:31,420
in 1999 he thought this must have been

1401
01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:34,540
some sort of American secret military

1402
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:38,230
craft let's continue on that score we

1403
01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:40,200
got more to come Chris Bukowski about

1404
01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:45,460
Falcon Lake 1967 return back through

1405
01:03:57,180 --> 01:03:48,160
time with J Randall Murphy and Jean

1406
01:04:01,390 --> 01:03:59,650
attack of the rock aids has been

1407
01:04:03,339 --> 01:04:01,400
well-received by critics and readers

1408
01:04:06,190 --> 01:04:03,349
alike it's a thrill a minute story

1409
01:04:08,499 --> 01:04:06,200
you'll never forget a former US military

1410
01:04:10,779 --> 01:04:08,509
intelligence officer is haunted by

1411
01:04:13,329 --> 01:04:10,789
intense dreams about a beautiful woman

1412
01:04:16,180 --> 01:04:13,339
pleading for his help after a terrible

1413
01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:16,190
battle in outer space but the dreams

1414
01:04:20,289 --> 01:04:18,440
turn out to be true and thrust him into

1415
01:04:22,989 --> 01:04:20,299
a telepathic love affair with a woman

1416
01:04:25,329 --> 01:04:22,999
whose faraway planet is intent on

1417
01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:25,339
destroying the earth and now the

1418
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1422
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1431
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afford to repair or replace your home

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1472
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of Hollywood for a long time I've seen

1473
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my fair share of celebrities get in

1474
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trouble with the IRS

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1479
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1480
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1481
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1497
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1499
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includes using a fuel burning stove or

1501
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cooking over an open fire then there's a

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much better way the Minuteman rocket

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this is Jacques Vallee

1512
01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:08,950
you're listening to the podcast the gold

1513
01:08:18,209 --> 01:08:16,630
standard of paranormal radio Randle

1514
01:08:19,709 --> 01:08:18,219
you're getting better and better Chris

1515
01:08:24,570 --> 01:08:19,719
O'Brien's on special assignment Chris

1516
01:08:27,390 --> 01:08:24,580
Rutkowski who is co-author of this new

1517
01:08:29,789 --> 01:08:27,400
book on the Falcon Lake case when they

1518
01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:29,799
appeared I'm looking at the picture this

1519
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:31,630
picture in the book this is essentially

1520
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:35,410
what the object looked like yes it was

1521
01:08:40,530 --> 01:08:38,560
actually designed by the cover was

1522
01:08:42,059 --> 01:08:40,540
designed by Stanley holic himself so he

1523
01:08:44,130 --> 01:08:42,069
had obviously listened to his father

1524
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,140
described it many times is based on the

1525
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:46,719
actual drawings which were produced and

1526
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:48,880
it you know it looks very Flying Saucer

1527
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:51,520
ish but mr. Halleck was convinced this

1528
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:53,290
was some sort of military craft because

1529
01:08:57,419 --> 01:08:55,120
obviously there is no such thing as as

1530
01:09:00,450 --> 01:08:57,429
aliens in his own worldview in his own

1531
01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:00,460
belief system and he watched this for

1532
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:03,759
about half an hour at least crouched

1533
01:09:08,010 --> 01:09:05,679
down in the bushes behind the boulder

1534
01:09:10,769 --> 01:09:08,020
and he was actually drawing it in his

1535
01:09:13,530 --> 01:09:10,779
notepad which he had always every time

1536
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:13,540
he went out into the bushes and as he

1537
01:09:19,650 --> 01:09:16,480
was watching it he could hear the rush

1538
01:09:22,530 --> 01:09:19,660
of airs if air was being expelled and

1539
01:09:23,999 --> 01:09:22,540
taken in other than that he couldn't

1540
01:09:26,099 --> 01:09:24,009
hear much in the way of sound there was

1541
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:26,109
a smell like burning electrical motors

1542
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:29,410
and a small door opened in the side of

1543
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:33,670
this kind of like a camera iris and he

1544
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:36,310
could see very bright lights coming out

1545
01:09:39,390 --> 01:09:37,690
of there in fact the lights coming from

1546
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,400
this thing were so significant this was

1547
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:41,199
about lunchtime so this was a little

1548
01:09:46,349 --> 01:09:43,810
after 12:00 12:30 or so and in the

1549
01:09:48,180 --> 01:09:46,359
middle of the day he actually had some

1550
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:48,190
welders goggles with him that he was

1551
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:49,750
using to protect his eyes from rock

1552
01:09:55,470 --> 01:09:53,170
chips when he was chipping away at at

1553
01:09:57,959 --> 01:09:55,480
rocks even through the welders goggles

1554
01:10:00,240 --> 01:09:57,969
these lights were very very bright and

1555
01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:00,250
he had to flip them down to get a good

1556
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:02,230
look at what this thing was well

1557
01:10:06,330 --> 01:10:04,449
eventually he figured you know this this

1558
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:06,340
is ridiculous at some sort of American

1559
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:09,250
weapon I'm gonna go walk over to them

1560
01:10:12,570 --> 01:10:11,350
and let them know I'm here so he stood

1561
01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:12,580
up and I don't know how many people

1562
01:10:15,150 --> 01:10:13,270
would

1563
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:15,160
do this you know standing up and walking

1564
01:10:22,620 --> 01:10:19,120
towards the Flying Saucer but he stood

1565
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:22,630
up and walked towards them and as he's

1566
01:10:28,770 --> 01:10:26,080
doing he could hear high-pitched voices

1567
01:10:30,750 --> 01:10:28,780
coming from inside this thing

1568
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,760
one voice seemed to be higher than the

1569
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:33,040
other he and he described it as very

1570
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:36,010
squeaky like in in sound and it made him

1571
01:10:40,170 --> 01:10:38,890
convinced all the more that that this

1572
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:40,180
was some sort of American leaven because

1573
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:43,090
obviously were people inside so he walks

1574
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,570
closer and he shouts out okay Yankee

1575
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:48,400
boys come on out I'll give you a hand

1576
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:50,650
bro fixing your broken-down flying

1577
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:53,110
machine pretty ballsy I'd have to say

1578
01:10:57,540 --> 01:10:56,410
but the voices stopped by this time he

1579
01:10:59,940 --> 01:10:57,550
was very close to it and he thought oh

1580
01:11:03,660 --> 01:10:59,950
wait a minute maybe it's not Americans

1581
01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:03,670
maybe it's Russian now mister mahalik

1582
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:06,190
was from Eastern Europe and he was

1583
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:08,290
actually in the military he was familiar

1584
01:11:13,860 --> 01:11:11,530
with craft he was familiar with a lot of

1585
01:11:14,850 --> 01:11:13,870
other nationalities so he happened to be

1586
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:14,860
multilingual

1587
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:17,770
so he called out in Russian the same

1588
01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:20,560
greeting nothing happened he called out

1589
01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:24,430
in German he called out in some French

1590
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:27,400
still nothing by this time he was

1591
01:11:33,090 --> 01:11:29,350
standing right in front of this this

1592
01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:33,100
little doorway or window and he touched

1593
01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:35,200
the side of it with his rubberized glove

1594
01:11:42,330 --> 01:11:38,830
and he looked in the try to look inside

1595
01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:42,340
this opening with his welders goggles

1596
01:11:46,620 --> 01:11:44,230
and he could just see a bunch of lights

1597
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:46,630
now people have said in some of the

1598
01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:48,880
translations and some of the versions

1599
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:50,230
that have been produced that they looked

1600
01:11:56,250 --> 01:11:53,410
like computer banks of lights but back

1601
01:11:57,690 --> 01:11:56,260
in 1967 that simply didn't exist mister

1602
01:11:59,310 --> 01:11:57,700
mahalik had never seen anything like

1603
01:12:01,560 --> 01:11:59,320
that he just said there are a lot of

1604
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:01,570
lights moving back and forth all of a

1605
01:12:06,150 --> 01:12:04,150
sudden his hand got hot because he

1606
01:12:07,740 --> 01:12:06,160
pulled his hand away and the rubberized

1607
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:07,750
glove had started to melt because the

1608
01:12:13,770 --> 01:12:09,340
sight of this thing was very very hot

1609
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:13,780
suddenly the Irish door or window shut

1610
01:12:20,090 --> 01:12:16,480
the entire object started to rotate

1611
01:12:23,790 --> 01:12:20,100
slightly so that right in front of him

1612
01:12:26,359 --> 01:12:23,800
not more than a foot or two away was an

1613
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:26,369
exhaust vent of some sort with us

1614
01:12:33,410 --> 01:12:30,480
with dozens of small holes and out of

1615
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:33,420
this this exhaust vent came a blast of

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01:12:41,089 --> 01:12:37,530
hot gas that came out and set his

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01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,099
clothes on fire knocked him down and

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01:12:44,839 --> 01:12:43,199
started smoldering some of the pine

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01:12:47,149 --> 01:12:44,849
needles and leaves that were on the

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01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:47,159
ground then this thing took off into the

1621
01:12:53,959 --> 01:12:49,500
sky and flew away leaving a very very

1622
01:12:56,660 --> 01:12:53,969
bewildered Stephon mahalik he reacted

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01:12:59,600 --> 01:12:56,670
very quickly by taking off his his shirt

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01:13:01,910 --> 01:12:59,610
and stamping it out and he stamped out

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some of the pine needles and leaves of

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being a very good outdoorsman but he was

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started to feel very ill whatever was in

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01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:09,239
this blast of gas had started reacting

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01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:12,090
to him and he started vomiting he got a

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01:13:16,490 --> 01:13:13,770
throbbing headache he was very

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disoriented he pulled out a compass to

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try and figure out a way back to

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civilization because he figured use his

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prospecting I was over for the day and I

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01:13:28,820 --> 01:13:26,070
accept his compass was spinning around

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01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:28,830
like a propeller and he put it down and

1637
01:13:34,660 --> 01:13:31,679
and he oriented himself as best he could

1638
01:13:38,359 --> 01:13:34,670
and headed out of the bush he eventually

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came out on to a highway which she knew

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ran near the town ended up going back to

1641
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his motel room but he was very very ill

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:46,619
he was injured he would have to go get

1643
01:13:53,229 --> 01:13:50,010
treatment somewhere he contacted his son

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by telephone and asked him to meet him

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01:13:58,609 --> 01:13:56,670
back in Winnipeg he he managed to gather

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up a few things and he actually hopped a

1647
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bus can you believe it to get back to

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Winnipeg that night his son took him to

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a hospital where he was treated for

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second and third degree burns he was

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sent home but the illness was still very

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very significant he remained in bed for

1653
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several weeks after that he had lost

1654
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weight doctors were puzzled as to what

1655
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had happened to him that's just when the

1656
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investigation started it sounds a little

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cache line from to me it sounds very

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cache landrum years earlier but it does

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sound very very similar to that you've

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got the heat you've got some sort of

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radiation which they found later but

1662
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this is a you know a close encounter a

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true close encounter perhaps a little

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too close for comfort for some people

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did he have any long-term effects it was

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something that he recovered from he did

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have a number of long-term effects as a

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matter of fact you know he his illness

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was very puzzling his doctor had

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recorded that as white white blood cell

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count was up and down a little bit but

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because he hadn't been to a doctor in a

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while it was hard to verify but a number

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of months later he was at work he when

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he eventually did return to work

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suddenly in the middle of the day his

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hands swelled up his body swelled up

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turned a little purple he found it hard

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to believe to breathe he was getting

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some sort of allergic reaction an

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anaphylactic shock of some sort which he

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had never experienced before and the

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doctors figured that he must have you

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know become allergic to something that

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was in in contact with with his body

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interestingly enough over the the next

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few years there were enough flare-ups

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that his family was very concerned and

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he went to the Mayo Clinic in the United

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States on his own because this wasn't

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covered under the Canadian medical

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system he had to pay for himself so he

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went to the Mayo Clinic as an outpatient

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stayed there for a number of days or

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they gave him a full medical workup and

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just figured that there was again there

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was some sort of toxic substance that

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had been introduced in his body that had

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been causing these allergic reactions he

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was not burned by radiation it turns out

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he was burned by thermal gas and there

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was no evidence of him being injured by

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a radioactive material in any way we

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assignment and we're talking about the

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witness to Falcon Lake and his ongoing

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01:21:36,459 --> 01:21:33,050
medical issues so this was some kind of

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thermal he or radiation as opposed to a

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normal radiation effect as opposed to

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radiation radiation right which clinic

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was this by the way this is in Rochester

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Minnesota this is the home office this

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is the Mayo Clinic the Mayo Clinic's

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psychiatrist looked at him and studied

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him for a while what's curious is that

1835
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we were able to obtain the medical

1836
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:00,770
records for mr. mahalik from the Mayo

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Clinic including the psychiatric

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evaluation which is several pages long

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and the psychiatrist's basically said

1840
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this is a guy who doesn't make up

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stories he's pragmatic he's pardon the

1842
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pun down-to-earth and this is somebody

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who you know has had enough stuff

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happened to him in his life that he

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doesn't need to make stories up so the

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medical doctors the medical community

1847
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:30,560
was puzzled as to what went on in fact

1848
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we were able to get the medical records

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from the hospital he had shown up at as

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well and his own family doctor well we

1851
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got the medical records released as well

1852
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:44,989
so we have more documents on this case

1853
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:48,650
that I think most UFO cases will ever

1854
01:22:55,660 --> 01:22:52,010
get I'm thinking we probably have maybe

1855
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two or three hundred official documents

1856
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if you include the medical records the

1857
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records from the Royal Canadian Mounted

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Police the Air Force the various

1859
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provincial agencies and then a lot of

1860
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the correspondence that flew between

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individuals regarding the case this is

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an amazingly well documented case which

1863
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is not

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the situation for Roswell or or shag

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harbour or even Lee you mentioned cash

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Landrum thing you know there's not a lot

1867
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of documentation with cash Landon when

1868
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you really look at it so this case is is

1869
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absolutely amazing and fully documented

1870
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the how did he live how old was he when

1871
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he died he passed away in 1999 so he'd

1872
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lived quite some time interestingly he

1873
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had the the burns on his upper chest but

1874
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on his abdomen he had what was described

1875
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as the checkerboard pattern of injuries

1876
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:51,020
and this obviously had come from that

1877
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that that blast from the the gas from

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the holes in the and the grill or

1879
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whatever it was that was there and just

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imagine you took a checkerboard and put

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01:24:07,330 --> 01:24:04,100
red checkers on each of the squares and

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put the whole thing on on your abdomen

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and then took away the the checkerboard

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01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:12,710
itself that's what the appearance of

1885
01:24:18,580 --> 01:24:15,530
these burns looked like the checkerboard

1886
01:24:21,220 --> 01:24:18,590
pattern of burns and they eventually

1887
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:21,230
faded but the scar tissue remained

1888
01:24:29,109 --> 01:24:24,560
throughout his life in fact even into

1889
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:29,119
the 90s you could he would you know lift

1890
01:24:34,419 --> 01:24:31,449
off his shirt if he really wanted to and

1891
01:24:36,820 --> 01:24:34,429
touch his skin and you could feel the

1892
01:24:38,620 --> 01:24:36,830
scar tissue underneath the skin he just

1893
01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:38,630
he he used to call them his buttons

1894
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:40,159
because that's the only way you could

1895
01:24:44,350 --> 01:24:41,360
really describe them

1896
01:24:46,870 --> 01:24:44,360
so we have you know the physical effects

1897
01:24:50,350 --> 01:24:46,880
are are absolutely astounding in this

1898
01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:50,360
case as well so question is what

1899
01:24:56,500 --> 01:24:54,100
happened to mr. mahalik back in 1967

1900
01:24:59,709 --> 01:24:56,510
skeptics just say well it was some sort

1901
01:25:02,530 --> 01:24:59,719
of elaborate hoax and this be an

1902
01:25:04,330 --> 01:25:02,540
elaborate hoax well because there's no

1903
01:25:06,220 --> 01:25:04,340
such thing as aliens and flying craft

1904
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:06,230
like that so what what else could it

1905
01:25:11,649 --> 01:25:09,530
possibly be Jean injured himself all the

1906
01:25:14,340 --> 01:25:11,659
injuries he suffered the treatment he

1907
01:25:16,959 --> 01:25:14,350
received he's a hypochondriac or he

1908
01:25:20,169 --> 01:25:16,969
subjected himself to radiation poisoning

1909
01:25:22,959 --> 01:25:20,179
or did something funky with some kind of

1910
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:22,969
thermal assembly yeah that's that's

1911
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:25,840
generally the the objections by skeptics

1912
01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:28,159
in a nutshell I mean the

1913
01:25:35,129 --> 01:25:31,670
been some some other aspects the Condon

1914
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:35,139
committee thought that it was a hoax and

1915
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:38,449
felt that you know it was quite

1916
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:40,159
elaborate however there was an

1917
01:25:46,629 --> 01:25:44,000
interesting out in the in the the Condon

1918
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:46,639
report and I'll paraphrase it but it

1919
01:25:51,700 --> 01:25:49,610
went too along the lines of if this

1920
01:25:54,129 --> 01:25:51,710
experience could be determined to be

1921
01:25:56,590 --> 01:25:54,139
physically real it would prove the

1922
01:26:00,700 --> 01:25:56,600
existence of unidentified flying objects

1923
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:00,710
in in the earth environment if this one

1924
01:26:05,620 --> 01:26:03,050
particular case according to the Condon

1925
01:26:08,169 --> 01:26:05,630
report could be proven real it would

1926
01:26:11,260 --> 01:26:08,179
prove UFOs were real once and for all

1927
01:26:13,140 --> 01:26:11,270
that's how important this case is I

1928
01:26:15,729 --> 01:26:13,150
suppose we could say that about any

1929
01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:15,739
given case if we could prove it was real

1930
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:18,350
so to me that really doesn't say a lot

1931
01:26:25,020 --> 01:26:20,239
and I've always been uncomfortable with

1932
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:25,030
this case then you seem to be very Pro

1933
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:28,489
michalak here or mahalik and and I'm

1934
01:26:32,500 --> 01:26:30,290
looking at what the skeptics have to say

1935
01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:32,510
and you know the way you described how

1936
01:26:38,290 --> 01:26:35,020
these marks on his body could have been

1937
01:26:39,939 --> 01:26:38,300
put there actually doesn't sound all

1938
01:26:42,370 --> 01:26:39,949
that complex to me it sounds like he

1939
01:26:45,070 --> 01:26:42,380
pretty much could have done that either

1940
01:26:48,220 --> 01:26:45,080
by accident or on purpose and I don't

1941
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:48,230
know about you but it I have put on

1942
01:26:53,229 --> 01:26:51,170
welding goggles and if you have ever

1943
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:53,239
done so yourself you can't see anything

1944
01:26:57,790 --> 01:26:55,130
through them unless you're looking at an

1945
01:27:00,399 --> 01:26:57,800
arc it's it's just not something that

1946
01:27:01,930 --> 01:27:00,409
anyone would take out geologically

1947
01:27:03,550 --> 01:27:01,940
prospecting if they want to see what

1948
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,560
they're doing while they're hitting

1949
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:05,840
rocks with a hammer it doesn't make any

1950
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:08,570
sense to me well he took them out quite

1951
01:27:13,629 --> 01:27:11,090
a few times and we actually looked at

1952
01:27:16,570 --> 01:27:13,639
the the welding goggles it's true I mean

1953
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:16,580
if you flip down the the the dark part

1954
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:18,050
you can't see anything but the goggles

1955
01:27:21,610 --> 01:27:19,610
themselves are very functional for

1956
01:27:23,740 --> 01:27:21,620
protecting your eyes from rock chips

1957
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:23,750
because they have just a clear glass he

1958
01:27:27,879 --> 01:27:25,040
only flipped them down when he was

1959
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:27,889
trying to see into the the really bright

1960
01:27:33,340 --> 01:27:30,409
lights that were sliding out of the out

1961
01:27:36,270 --> 01:27:33,350
of the craft so you know that's it's an

1962
01:27:38,979 --> 01:27:36,280
interesting objection and a good point

1963
01:27:41,050 --> 01:27:38,989
yeah there's a lot of effects here that

1964
01:27:41,979 --> 01:27:41,060
would you know that could certainly say

1965
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:41,989
that he made

1966
01:27:46,739 --> 01:27:44,090
the whole thing up but what's curious

1967
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:46,749
about the book that we produced is that

1968
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,110
a third of the book where I get maybe a

1969
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:53,360
quarter of the book is the recollection

1970
01:27:57,790 --> 01:27:56,239
of Stanley holic himself this is not

1971
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:57,800
just a book that tells the story of a

1972
01:28:03,399 --> 01:27:59,840
particular UFO case it tells the story

1973
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:03,409
of what happened to the family the title

1974
01:28:09,700 --> 01:28:06,050
when they appeared has nothing to do

1975
01:28:13,689 --> 01:28:09,710
with aliens the title has to do with the

1976
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:13,699
endless stream of investigators and and

1977
01:28:19,959 --> 01:28:17,449
media reporters that showed up flooding

1978
01:28:22,810 --> 01:28:19,969
the home and bothering the the mahalik

1979
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:22,820
sat all hours of day or night it has to

1980
01:28:27,759 --> 01:28:25,369
do with how the RCMP investigators and

1981
01:28:30,879 --> 01:28:27,769
the Iranian Air Force came into their

1982
01:28:33,180 --> 01:28:30,889
home you know drilling not only the

1983
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:33,190
family but they went to the out of their

1984
01:28:39,069 --> 01:28:37,130
their places of work they talked to the

1985
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:39,079
kids in great detail Stan mahalik was

1986
01:28:43,660 --> 01:28:41,570
just 9 or 10 years old at the time that

1987
01:28:46,180 --> 01:28:43,670
this occurred but he talks in great

1988
01:28:50,290 --> 01:28:46,190
detail of what he remembered is his

1989
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,300
father being like how he again not the

1990
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:51,920
type of person to make anything up

1991
01:28:59,979 --> 01:28:57,050
whatsoever not of not a joker of any

1992
01:29:02,350 --> 01:28:59,989
kind and there would be no positive gain

1993
01:29:04,689 --> 01:29:02,360
for producing this so the book is not

1994
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:04,699
just about the story of what happened

1995
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:08,570
it's the the fallout from what happened

1996
01:29:12,609 --> 01:29:10,010
from the perspective of the witness's

1997
01:29:14,259 --> 01:29:12,619
family and then I have two sections in

1998
01:29:17,739 --> 01:29:14,269
the book one in which I go through all

1999
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:17,749
the great and great detail the analysis

2000
01:29:22,959 --> 01:29:21,110
we I went through all the hundreds of

2001
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:22,969
pages of documentation showing the

2002
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:25,130
extent to which that the Royal Canadian

2003
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:28,880
Air Force and the RCMP investigated to

2004
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:30,170
the point where they actually went and

2005
01:29:34,359 --> 01:29:32,239
got mr. mahalik drunk to see if they

2006
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,369
could loosen his lips a little and

2007
01:29:39,549 --> 01:29:36,800
change his story they always get their

2008
01:29:41,709 --> 01:29:39,559
man of course but in the opinion of the

2009
01:29:46,109 --> 01:29:41,719
or Canadian Mounted Police and the Air

2010
01:29:48,729 --> 01:29:46,119
Force they have found nothing that would

2011
01:29:51,069 --> 01:29:48,739
dispute his story so as much as we'd

2012
01:29:53,229 --> 01:29:51,079
like to think that yeah maybe you could

2013
01:29:55,229 --> 01:29:53,239
hoax the darn thing you when you think

2014
01:29:58,169 --> 01:29:55,239
about hoaxing the case in the middle of

2015
01:30:00,899 --> 01:29:58,179
wilderness in 1967 and getting

2016
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:00,909
radioactive materials involved melting

2017
01:30:09,569 --> 01:30:06,369
silver maintaining the ruse for 30 years

2018
01:30:13,410 --> 01:30:09,579
and more it begins to stretch the

2019
01:30:16,350 --> 01:30:13,420
imagination so could it be a hoax yeah

2020
01:30:19,410 --> 01:30:16,360
it certainly could be is it very very

2021
01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:19,420
complex and mysterious yes it is

2022
01:30:24,660 --> 01:30:22,239
so I mean I agree with you Randall that

2023
01:30:26,879 --> 01:30:24,670
it's you know it's it's a disturbing

2024
01:30:29,459 --> 01:30:26,889
case because it's you know it has so

2025
01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:29,469
many elements that one would think that

2026
01:30:33,959 --> 01:30:31,630
it either proves that it's everything's

2027
01:30:35,879 --> 01:30:33,969
real or you know maybe nothing's real

2028
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we're going to have more of this with

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Chris Rutkowski Jean Steinberg J Randall

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Murphy you're in the para cast thank you

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plus PL us stop the para cast com+ South

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America's comm check it out the book

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we're talking about here is all about

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Falcon Lake it's about when they

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appeared Chris Bukowski is explaining

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all we're looking into the possibility

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or being a single witness sighting I

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guess that's part of the problem could

2151
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it be a fake yeah no question it's a

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01:36:25,130 --> 01:36:22,120
single witness case so you know all

2153
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:25,140
rests on the veracity of mr. Rahall ik

2154
01:36:34,190 --> 01:36:30,489
it's quite interesting that the case was

2155
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:34,200
produced for number of UFO TV shows and

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01:36:41,550 --> 01:36:39,100
we tell the anecdote in the book at the

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01:36:44,340 --> 01:36:41,560
time that unsolved mysteries did this

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01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:44,350
particular case and we were contacted by

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01:36:51,150 --> 01:36:48,010
NBC and the oh I guess 1990-1991

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01:36:54,570 --> 01:36:51,160
something like that and the NBC flew

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01:36:57,180 --> 01:36:54,580
myself and mr. mahalik and his wife and

2162
01:36:59,940 --> 01:36:57,190
also Stan mahalik down to their set in

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01:37:03,300 --> 01:36:59,950
the United States for this particular

2164
01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:03,310
show and we didn't see anything in terms

2165
01:37:07,410 --> 01:37:05,080
of the recreation but the interview with

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01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:07,420
mr. mahalik on camera was really quite

2167
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:12,340
remarkable they set up their set such

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01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:14,560
that it looked like we were supposed to

2169
01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:18,010
look like the inside of the Malik's home

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01:37:25,110 --> 01:37:21,430
in Canada you know they had a nice

2171
01:37:27,390 --> 01:37:25,120
overstuffed chair and a lamb and some

2172
01:37:29,859 --> 01:37:27,400
bookcases in the background and so forth

2173
01:37:32,799 --> 01:37:29,869
all the while boom mics and

2174
01:37:34,540 --> 01:37:32,809
and sound guys were running around some

2175
01:37:39,219 --> 01:37:34,550
very bright lights of course the makeup

2176
01:37:41,229 --> 01:37:39,229
artists some reflectors you know dozens

2177
01:37:43,419 --> 01:37:41,239
and dozens of people running around you

2178
01:37:45,639 --> 01:37:43,429
know on this particular set it was quite

2179
01:37:47,799 --> 01:37:45,649
overwhelming and Mister mahalik was

2180
01:37:50,279 --> 01:37:47,809
sitting in this in this chair that was

2181
01:37:53,549 --> 01:37:50,289
supposed to be in his living room and

2182
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:53,559
the director of this particular segment

2183
01:37:58,209 --> 01:37:56,570
said to him you know I'll bet that the

2184
01:37:59,770 --> 01:37:58,219
unless you're a little bit overwhelmed

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01:38:02,020 --> 01:37:59,780
by all this and he could see cuz you

2186
01:38:04,359 --> 01:38:02,030
know mr. mahalik was not used to this by

2187
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:04,369
any any way of this stretch of the

2188
01:38:10,810 --> 01:38:07,280
imagination and the director said you

2189
01:38:12,549 --> 01:38:10,820
know why don't you just talk to me so

2190
01:38:14,739 --> 01:38:12,559
the director set a chair down in front

2191
01:38:16,929 --> 01:38:14,749
of them and let's just still talk just

2192
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:16,939
so you get comfortable with talking with

2193
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:19,489
all this stuff here you know I'll bet

2194
01:38:25,899 --> 01:38:23,209
this is the most you know mind-blowing

2195
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:25,909
the most amazing thing that you know

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01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:29,090
ever had happen in your life and mr.

2197
01:38:33,790 --> 01:38:32,209
mahalik said no and of course

2198
01:38:35,169 --> 01:38:33,800
everybody's listening to this and they

2199
01:38:36,759 --> 01:38:35,179
sort of roll their eyes and they say

2200
01:38:40,089 --> 01:38:36,769
okay this guy's got some really good

2201
01:38:42,369 --> 01:38:40,099
tales coming up here and so the director

2202
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:42,379
said really well what really was the

2203
01:38:46,689 --> 01:38:44,449
most amazing and the most mind-bending

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01:38:48,850 --> 01:38:46,699
thing that ever happened to you and mr.

2205
01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:48,860
mahalik then proceeded to tell about his

2206
01:39:01,209 --> 01:38:53,209
experience in Europe during the Second

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01:39:03,219 --> 01:39:01,219
World War where he was imprisoned and in

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01:39:06,459 --> 01:39:03,229
one of the camps his wife was also put

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01:39:09,359 --> 01:39:06,469
in a separate camp he managed to escape

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01:39:11,830 --> 01:39:09,369
and work for the Allied underground

2211
01:39:17,229 --> 01:39:11,840
worked on a number of missions with them

2212
01:39:21,459 --> 01:39:17,239
and after the war it was he was employed

2213
01:39:26,350 --> 01:39:21,469
by the Americans to go into the camps to

2214
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:26,360
repatriate them and to document what was

2215
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:30,530
inside and mr. mahalik had at that time

2216
01:39:36,250 --> 01:39:33,530
on the set of nbc's unsolved mysteries

2217
01:39:37,859 --> 01:39:36,260
while the cameras were not running told

2218
01:39:40,509 --> 01:39:37,869
some stories about what he had seen

2219
01:39:41,890 --> 01:39:40,519
inside those camps inside some of the

2220
01:39:44,830 --> 01:39:41,900
ovens

2221
01:39:47,140 --> 01:39:44,840
and after you told his story there was a

2222
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:47,150
not a sound to be heard on the set

2223
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:49,760
anywhere everybody was just riveted on

2224
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:52,730
what mr. mahalik was saying he finished

2225
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:54,410
a story and then he looked the director

2226
01:40:00,220 --> 01:39:57,650
in the eye and he said that was the most

2227
01:40:00,850 --> 01:40:00,230
amazing and mind-bending experience of

2228
01:40:03,630 --> 01:40:00,860
my life

2229
01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:03,640
no I could believe that we have so many

2230
01:40:09,580 --> 01:40:06,560
people that come to Canada is immigrated

2231
01:40:11,470 --> 01:40:09,590
here with really amazing stories I've

2232
01:40:14,250 --> 01:40:11,480
been interviewing a couple of people

2233
01:40:17,410 --> 01:40:14,260
myself for another personal project and

2234
01:40:19,300 --> 01:40:17,420
getting here and their survival stories

2235
01:40:22,060 --> 01:40:19,310
some of them really truly are amazing

2236
01:40:23,770 --> 01:40:22,070
journeys yes absolutely true and I

2237
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:23,780
remember sitting I was off to one side

2238
01:40:29,260 --> 01:40:27,290
and one of the the set people I know

2239
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:29,270
whether he was a grip or whatever he

2240
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:30,770
turned to somebody next to him he said

2241
01:40:33,550 --> 01:40:32,090
this guy doesn't mean he doesn't need to

2242
01:40:37,180 --> 01:40:33,560
make up a story about a flying saucer

2243
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:37,190
he's had he's had enough in his life and

2244
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:39,110
I guess that you know to put that in

2245
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:42,890
that perspective mr. mahalik made no

2246
01:40:49,330 --> 01:40:46,130
money the experience was more disruptive

2247
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:49,340
and more difficult for his family than

2248
01:40:56,590 --> 01:40:50,960
anything else in fact Stan mahalik

2249
01:41:00,880 --> 01:40:56,600
recounts in in the book how mr. Rahall

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01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:00,890
ex-wife maryam mahalik you know what

2251
01:41:05,770 --> 01:41:03,770
sometimes argue with with her husband

2252
01:41:07,450 --> 01:41:05,780
about you know why did you have to get

2253
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:07,460
burned by that thing out in the woods

2254
01:41:12,910 --> 01:41:09,890
like it's just a causing has no end of

2255
01:41:14,890 --> 01:41:12,920
trouble that type of thing we don't see

2256
01:41:17,410 --> 01:41:14,900
this turned into quite as much of a

2257
01:41:20,740 --> 01:41:17,420
franchises say like the city craves

2258
01:41:22,990 --> 01:41:20,750
National Forest incident Walton you know

2259
01:41:25,570 --> 01:41:23,000
I mean we've got a movie there we've got

2260
01:41:27,250 --> 01:41:25,580
numerous appearances on television shows

2261
01:41:29,770 --> 01:41:27,260
everything else I mean maybe he's had a

2262
01:41:32,380 --> 01:41:29,780
little bit of a break in terms of some

2263
01:41:35,290 --> 01:41:32,390
media coverage but certainly not to the

2264
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:35,300
extent of Walton no absolutely not in

2265
01:41:39,580 --> 01:41:37,310
fact the family stopped doing media

2266
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:39,590
interviews a few years after this had

2267
01:41:44,740 --> 01:41:42,650
happened because they were fed up in

2268
01:41:48,490 --> 01:41:44,750
fact it was common for media to contact

2269
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:48,500
me too to try and talk to the me holux

2270
01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:49,850
because they just refused to talk to

2271
01:41:54,970 --> 01:41:51,440
reporters after a while it was too

2272
01:41:57,970 --> 01:41:54,980
disruptive too painful in some ways

2273
01:42:00,460 --> 01:41:57,980
and you know they're they really didn't

2274
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,470
gain anything from this

2275
01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:02,480
there was no monetary gain it was more

2276
01:42:09,250 --> 01:42:04,880
painful and were more difficult for them

2277
01:42:11,950 --> 01:42:09,260
more than anything else so and I think

2278
01:42:15,700 --> 01:42:11,960
you know this isn't the like the Walton

2279
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:15,710
case where you know where Randall was

2280
01:42:19,770 --> 01:42:18,110
was just saying off air a minute ago

2281
01:42:23,650 --> 01:42:19,780
that it turned into quite a franchise

2282
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:23,660
you know this is really interesting that

2283
01:42:27,460 --> 01:42:25,730
you make about two follow-up

2284
01:42:29,710 --> 01:42:27,470
investigations and on the cover of your

2285
01:42:31,150 --> 01:42:29,720
book that had made me wonder I was

2286
01:42:33,030 --> 01:42:31,160
looking at the cover and I'm seeing in

2287
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:33,040
the background these sort of shadowy

2288
01:42:39,729 --> 01:42:36,130
almost men in black type figures and

2289
01:42:42,729 --> 01:42:39,739
that explains part of the story part of

2290
01:42:46,210 --> 01:42:42,739
the story is the investigation so he

2291
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:46,220
wasn't just out to convince a couple of

2292
01:42:51,570 --> 01:42:49,489
wide-eyed UFO investigators he'd had a

2293
01:42:55,150 --> 01:42:51,580
number of people in a number of

2294
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:55,160
interrogations to affect him to tell his

2295
01:43:03,010 --> 01:42:57,920
story - did you run across any actual

2296
01:43:05,860 --> 01:43:03,020
MIB type people in this Chris no no I

2297
01:43:07,210 --> 01:43:05,870
mean they're the the case attracted a

2298
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:07,220
lot of attention mean after all was

2299
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:08,320
involved

2300
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:10,970
investigators would come up to Canada

2301
01:43:15,570 --> 01:43:12,320
from time to time saying that they're

2302
01:43:18,100 --> 01:43:15,580
reopening the case and and I actually

2303
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:18,110
the mahalik is being very very trusting

2304
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:21,050
people you know when somebody came up

2305
01:43:23,890 --> 01:43:22,400
saying that I'm from such-and-such a

2306
01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:23,900
uniform is a ssin we would like to

2307
01:43:31,900 --> 01:43:26,480
reanalyze the the metal or the material

2308
01:43:36,910 --> 01:43:31,910
they actually gave away much of the the

2309
01:43:38,020 --> 01:43:36,920
the the materials the rubberized glove

2310
01:43:42,190 --> 01:43:38,030
which would have been in their

2311
01:43:44,170 --> 01:43:42,200
possession went to a pro and when a pro

2312
01:43:46,210 --> 01:43:44,180
folded and everything went at the

2313
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:46,220
storage we assumed the glove is - we

2314
01:43:51,670 --> 01:43:48,610
don't have access to the glove anymore

2315
01:43:54,370 --> 01:43:51,680
the original undershirt oddly enough is

2316
01:43:55,810 --> 01:43:54,380
still in in possession they kept it all

2317
01:43:56,770 --> 01:43:55,820
these years and we looked at it quite

2318
01:43:59,050 --> 01:43:56,780
recently

2319
01:44:01,960 --> 01:43:59,060
mr. mahalik SCAP which is definitely

2320
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:01,970
burned and a chunk was torn out by the

2321
01:44:08,590 --> 01:44:05,330
Air Force for analysis that we still

2322
01:44:12,150 --> 01:44:08,600
have that and we have only one

2323
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:12,160
piece of metal from the the experience

2324
01:44:17,410 --> 01:44:14,810
there were two large pieces of metal and

2325
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:17,420
about 30 or 40 smaller pieces of metal

2326
01:44:23,110 --> 01:44:21,290
those are all absolutely gone to

2327
01:44:24,940 --> 01:44:23,120
individuals claiming that they're with

2328
01:44:28,210 --> 01:44:24,950
such-and-such an organization and we're

2329
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:28,220
gonna analyze it hold off one second

2330
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:29,690
Chris so let's just clarify the

2331
01:44:34,990 --> 01:44:32,210
situation so everyone understands

2332
01:44:37,060 --> 01:44:35,000
clearly what's going on because evidence

2333
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:37,070
in connection with the UFO case physical

2334
01:44:41,980 --> 01:44:39,440
evidence is something extraordinary

2335
01:44:44,490 --> 01:44:41,990
something very difficult to find but in

2336
01:44:47,470 --> 01:44:44,500
this case we have people picking it up

2337
01:44:50,530 --> 01:44:47,480
taking this evidence and I guess never

2338
01:44:52,450 --> 01:44:50,540
following up never following it up never

2339
01:44:55,390 --> 01:44:52,460
never being heard from again in some

2340
01:44:57,010 --> 01:44:55,400
cases and the me holux had no record

2341
01:44:59,020 --> 01:44:57,020
they they you know they were very very

2342
01:45:01,470 --> 01:44:59,030
trusting they didn't know who who these

2343
01:45:03,970 --> 01:45:01,480
people were but they seemed reputable

2344
01:45:04,830 --> 01:45:03,980
Randle's before we go on where'd you put

2345
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:04,840
it

2346
01:45:11,530 --> 01:45:08,510
exactly well we've got the secret base

2347
01:45:13,090 --> 01:45:11,540
here gene and I just I can't let on all

2348
01:45:15,460 --> 01:45:13,100
the stuff we've got here so well

2349
01:45:17,770 --> 01:45:15,470
Randall's very close to Cold Lake you

2350
01:45:20,980 --> 01:45:17,780
know we have to worry about cold lake we

2351
01:45:24,100 --> 01:45:20,990
got more to come with Chris rutkowski

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01:45:24,780 --> 01:45:24,110
Jay Randall Murphy gene Steinberg you're

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01:45:27,090 --> 01:45:24,790
in

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01:45:37,810 --> 01:45:27,100
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midas resources calm or find us on

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facebook welcome back to the para cast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now here's jane steinberg I think he

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wants to do the laugh of a vampire

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that's where it is just that was a cold

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actually sorry a vampire with a cold

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vampire with a cold yeah a little count

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Floyd going on there maybe yeah

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anyway are we on yeah are we back on to

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the right of course what do you think oh

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god we're waiting for you to give us the

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go-ahead and we're just like I think

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it's more fun to listen to you talk

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amongst yourself

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we're just vamping here yeah you vamp

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and then see what kind of trouble you

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get into right further to these pieces

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of metal we actually have the analyses

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the atomic energy of Canada and analyzed

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the material the material was also

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analyzed by University of Chicago now we

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have that analysis we have other studies

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have been done and very recently as a

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matter of fact I took the the piece to

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university here in Canada just to verify

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that it still is radioactive after all

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these years do I really want it to be

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somewhere in my in my study and yeah you

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know it's it's still radioactive to do a

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proper spectral analysis of the

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radiation would take a few weeks and I'm

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hesitant to let it out of my sight

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because everything else is disappeared I

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would assume we'd a little more

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trustworthy at a university but you

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never know I wouldn't do it without

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conferring with Stan and we're still

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debating all that incidentally we were

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talking about the follow-up and the men

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in black and things like that when we

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went to our book launch just a matter of

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days ago after we had given our

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presentation we're signing copies of the

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book this very very tall elderly

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gentleman

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comes up and he has a copy of the book

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and he says yeah can you sign this for

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me I said sure and he turns to Stan

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mahalik and he says it's a good book or

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it looks like a good book but you

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spelled my name wrong and we look up at

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him and he is actually he was one of the

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original RCMP investigators on the case

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fifty years ago well into his 80s still

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alive he as were sitting there he pulls

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out photographs that he himself had

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taken out at the site fifty years ago

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and he says you know I investigated this

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case thoroughly and in my report as and

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I have alluded to it earlier in the in

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our broadcast tonight that he couldn't

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explain this case he personally

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interviewed interrogated not just

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interviewed interrogated mr. mahalik

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fifty years ago and in his opinion mr.

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mahalik was telling the truth about what

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he had seen okay so if we go with this

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then if we say all right so mahalik had

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an experience where some sort of alien

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craft was seen and he was assuming

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01:51:18,689 --> 01:51:16,719
perhaps it was some sort of craft that

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was produced by the military in the

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United States but we've seen no craft

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01:51:25,709 --> 01:51:24,010
like that that can perform like that at

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01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:25,719
any rate I mean there was the Avro Arrow

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01:51:30,779 --> 01:51:28,090
car but we know how well that worked I

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mean bumper cars it's a kid's fair work

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better than that thing so where did this

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thing come from then Christie exactly

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that's the mystery and you're absolutely

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right there was nothing on the on the

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books or anything flying one would think

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that if this thing was you know that was

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let's say a prototype and there was one

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that was flying that didn't land for

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repairs that one would see some evidence

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in the history of avionics that would

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suggest that something like this was

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going on

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Palmero Campania who looked through the

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Canadian UFO files in great detail in

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his opinion this was some sort of

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American craft although again that the

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thing is you don't have

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Providence that suggests that this

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actually was produced in any way and you

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know this was only a matter of a year or

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and a little bit before Apollo landed on

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the moon and you know if you had one of

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01:52:26,350 --> 01:52:24,530
these things flying around why would you

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even bother with Apollo so it doesn't

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make any sense whatsoever and Randall

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you're the one who mentioned alien we're

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still not talking alien I I don't see

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that this case proves in any way that

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aliens are flying around in Earth's

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environment mister mahalik never said

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that it was alien in any way he still

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talked in terms of a prosaic craft the

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problem is saying that it's one of ours

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doesn't make any sense either so you

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know the question is what was it and

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that's why it's a mystery and that's why

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we sort of one of the reasons we

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produced the book was to lay all the

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facts on the table once and for all from

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all aspects the human side the physical

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sign the documents what we experienced

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Western what mr. mahalik experienced

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it's really a mystery it's a it's like a

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detective novel that doesn't have an

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ending right now but maybe with time who

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knows in fact there's a news report that

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just came out on a show show you saw

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this Randall that somebody has found

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that the Canadian government has

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something like a hundred thousand or two

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hundred thousand documents secret

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documents that remain classified despite

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the fact that the archives and

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unclassified so many and so many of them

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mahalik documents for example were

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unclassified eventually but apparently

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the communications security

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establishment has hundreds of thousands

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of documents the Privy Council has

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hundreds of thousands of documents they

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do exist and they're on all kinds of

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topics that are too sensitive at this

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01:54:12,130 --> 01:54:08,840
point to to release that was Dennis this

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01:54:14,350 --> 01:54:12,140
was just over the past day or so that

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01:54:16,060 --> 01:54:14,360
this came to light so maybe there's some

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interesting documents we know for

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01:54:20,830 --> 01:54:18,500
example that the original drawing that

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mr. mahalik produced the sketch that

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most people probably have seen in one

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01:54:30,219 --> 01:54:25,489
or another vanished we don't know what

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01:54:32,770 --> 01:54:30,229
happened to it it was supposedly I mean

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01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:32,780
it was given to the RCMP and rcaf but

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was never returned and then when they

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01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:36,079
went looking through their file they're

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01:54:39,969 --> 01:54:38,210
unable to find it another interesting

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01:54:43,899 --> 01:54:39,979
aspect of this particular case is that

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this case actually was raised in the

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Canadian Parliament that was debated in

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01:54:50,859 --> 01:54:48,710
the House of Commons this would be the

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equivalent of talking about a UFO case

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01:54:57,700 --> 01:54:54,219
in Congress how often does that happen

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01:55:00,430 --> 01:54:57,710
and we have the records from the House

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01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:00,440
of Commons debates the Hansard where

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this was raised not just once but a

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couple of times in fact the Prime

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Minister

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Pearson at the time had the file on his

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01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:12,499
desk and admitted such to one of the

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members of parliament who had inquired

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01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:17,570
about the case and why would a Prime

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Minister have this particular case on

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01:55:25,810 --> 01:55:23,119
his desk again to me this shows that

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this particular case is highly

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significant and I don't know you know

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how to resolve the the the ending you

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01:55:37,330 --> 01:55:35,929
know we don't can't prove that it's

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alien but we can't prove that it was

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some sort of American man-made craft

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01:55:46,149 --> 01:55:43,369
either yes I support what we need to do

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01:55:48,129 --> 01:55:46,159
there Chris is in terms of ufology when

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01:55:49,629 --> 01:55:48,139
we're looking at something alien that

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01:55:52,330 --> 01:55:49,639
doesn't necessitate something

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01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:52,340
extraterrestrial or interstellar what we

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01:55:58,029 --> 01:55:55,210
mean by alien is simply beyond the

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01:56:00,189 --> 01:55:58,039
constructs of our known civilization so

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I mean it's well it might be something

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01:56:04,770 --> 01:56:01,760
that is from a highly classified

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01:56:08,290 --> 01:56:04,780
military project of some kind that

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01:56:11,290 --> 01:56:08,300
doesn't really count as in my mind is

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01:56:14,350 --> 01:56:11,300
something alien but maybe something like

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01:56:16,450 --> 01:56:14,360
Bosley's parallel civilization or

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01:56:20,500 --> 01:56:16,460
parallel society that would so it could

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01:56:20,950 --> 01:56:20,510
still be terrestrial and alien that's a

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01:56:22,330 --> 01:56:20,960
good point

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I guess the reason why I'm reticent

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about talking about alien ships and

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01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:26,900
things like that is that most people

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associate alien craft with saucers and

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01:56:36,459 --> 01:56:34,010
travelling between stars and things like

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that and you know the the you know they

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the meme is pretty solid so we're just

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being very very careful here that the

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01:56:46,750 --> 01:56:44,449
terminology is very being very specific

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01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:46,760
I go back to one thing about your

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01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:48,080
description earlier and I haven't had a

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01:56:55,689 --> 01:56:51,410
chance you were mentioning Chris that he

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01:56:59,080 --> 01:56:55,699
heard the this speech

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high-pitched speech which kind of sounds

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to me like the humorous version of

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little tiny green men you know I ever

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see cartoons of little green men and

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they always talk like they had inhaled

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helium yeah or maybe the late David

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Seville of the Chipmunks Fame right was

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doing these voices at high speed so

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that's what hit me you know why would

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that be unless they feed these people

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heal him before he heard them it's just

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a strange strange aspect of this we have

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more strange stuff from Chris Rutkowski

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and Jay Randall Murphy and gene

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para cast calm so Chris read Kowski what

2725
02:02:17,340 --> 02:02:14,800
do you think about that that is

2726
02:02:19,890 --> 02:02:17,350
something that just hit me as soon as

2727
02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:19,900
you said it about the voices of these

2728
02:02:23,450 --> 02:02:20,560
things

2729
02:02:25,980 --> 02:02:23,460
well yeah it's I mean it's very strange

2730
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:25,990
people had been trying to reproduce

2731
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:29,290
things for him for mr. mahalik after

2732
02:02:33,660 --> 02:02:32,170
that in fact to say you know did it

2733
02:02:36,570 --> 02:02:33,670
sound like this did it sound like this

2734
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:36,580
and the closest that he could get to it

2735
02:02:42,270 --> 02:02:40,810
was from if somebody played a tape

2736
02:02:44,730 --> 02:02:42,280
recorder

2737
02:02:47,370 --> 02:02:44,740
at high speeds you know the voices are

2738
02:02:50,910 --> 02:02:47,380
all sped up like that and when they

2739
02:02:53,010 --> 02:02:50,920
played that for him he said that sounded

2740
02:02:55,110 --> 02:02:53,020
very much like like what the voices

2741
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:55,120
sounded like so maybe somebody was in

2742
02:02:58,290 --> 02:02:56,530
there playing a tape recorder at high

2743
02:02:59,970 --> 02:02:58,300
speed to get some information or test

2744
02:03:02,970 --> 02:02:59,980
something absolutely that makes as much

2745
02:03:05,130 --> 02:03:02,980
sense as anything else I suppose we

2746
02:03:07,530 --> 02:03:05,140
could speculate well I'd say what the

2747
02:03:09,870 --> 02:03:07,540
pilots name the pilot of the spacecraft

2748
02:03:12,450 --> 02:03:09,880
or whatever it was was Ross Bagdasarian

2749
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:12,460
who of course that's the real name for

2750
02:03:18,860 --> 02:03:14,530
David Seville it was a secret government

2751
02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:18,870
operative boy the Chipmunks arrived

2752
02:03:26,580 --> 02:03:21,820
absolutely the other thing we can do is

2753
02:03:30,660 --> 02:03:26,590
point out that 1967 was an amazing year

2754
02:03:32,460 --> 02:03:30,670
in ufology all things considered I mean

2755
02:03:36,210 --> 02:03:32,470
that was the same year we mentioned shag

2756
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:36,220
harbour that was in early October of

2757
02:03:45,210 --> 02:03:40,410
1967 a little bit later and I alluded to

2758
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:45,220
the the crop circles that were found in

2759
02:03:53,340 --> 02:03:49,210
Canada in a little bit later on it's

2760
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:53,350
very curious that in August of 1967 in

2761
02:04:00,330 --> 02:03:56,370
Duhamel Alberta seven circular rings

2762
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:00,340
were found in the in the fields out

2763
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:02,410
there 30 feet and

2764
02:04:08,370 --> 02:04:04,330
ammeter so oddly enough very similar in

2765
02:04:11,090 --> 02:04:08,380
size to the mahalik object each ring was

2766
02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:11,100
about six or eight inches wide and

2767
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:14,560
military investigators were sent to the

2768
02:04:20,210 --> 02:04:16,930
site the our Royal Canadian Air Force

2769
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:20,220
and the RCMP were once again involved

2770
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:26,050
and they produced a report on what they

2771
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:27,850
found in fact this is very interesting

2772
02:04:34,590 --> 02:04:31,450
that you know the military Canadian

2773
02:04:37,020 --> 02:04:34,600
military investigated crop circles and

2774
02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:37,030
there was no object seen but it was

2775
02:04:42,660 --> 02:04:40,090
considered related to UFOs in fact their

2776
02:04:45,390 --> 02:04:42,670
report which has been unclassified is

2777
02:04:49,790 --> 02:04:45,400
titled on-site inspection of reputed UFO

2778
02:04:53,220 --> 02:04:49,800
landing marks at Duhamel Alberta and

2779
02:04:58,050 --> 02:04:53,230
this was studied in great detail and

2780
02:05:02,490 --> 02:04:58,060
what is really amazing is that there was

2781
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:02,500
a ministerial inquiry into this

2782
02:05:07,260 --> 02:05:04,930
particular case we have the document

2783
02:05:10,410 --> 02:05:07,270
that labels the investigation of this

2784
02:05:12,420 --> 02:05:10,420
and ministerial inquiry because it was

2785
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:12,430
taken very very seriously by the Royal

2786
02:05:18,810 --> 02:05:14,950
Canadian Air Force and who do you think

2787
02:05:22,980 --> 02:05:18,820
was the Minister of Defence for Canada

2788
02:05:28,890 --> 02:05:22,990
at that time one guess Hellyer Paul

2789
02:05:31,500 --> 02:05:28,900
Hellyer himself oh geez yeah the proper

2790
02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:31,510
vibe yes just before we go on trivia

2791
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:33,430
because I mentioned the Chipmunks and

2792
02:05:39,170 --> 02:05:36,490
Ross Bagdasarian he also heard a song

2793
02:05:41,750 --> 02:05:39,180
that was sung by Rosemary Clooney of

2794
02:05:44,970 --> 02:05:41,760
course that's George Clooney's aunt

2795
02:05:47,610 --> 02:05:44,980
called hamana my house which was a hit

2796
02:05:50,070 --> 02:05:47,620
record in the early 50s if anyone

2797
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:50,080
remembers it come on to my house tonight

2798
02:05:55,470 --> 02:05:53,110
oh yeah that was that was they mrs. ill

2799
02:05:58,440 --> 02:05:55,480
that was their IO created the Chipmunks

2800
02:06:02,670 --> 02:05:58,450
and the witch doctor same guy that's

2801
02:06:04,770 --> 02:06:02,680
obscure trivia for me I get more obscure

2802
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:04,780
as the show goes on let's go back to

2803
02:06:09,050 --> 02:06:07,930
talking like and I'll get even get

2804
02:06:15,310 --> 02:06:09,060
another trivia

2805
02:06:17,350 --> 02:06:15,320
June 3rd of 1967 so just a matter of a

2806
02:06:20,770 --> 02:06:17,360
a couple of weeks after the Falcon Lake

2807
02:06:23,530 --> 02:06:20,780
case something else happened that was

2808
02:06:27,310 --> 02:06:23,540
very significant in Canada the st. Paul

2809
02:06:29,169 --> 02:06:27,320
UFO landing pad not opened in Alberta

2810
02:06:31,689 --> 02:06:29,179
come on Randall this is all your is all

2811
02:06:35,020 --> 02:06:31,699
your stuff here it was dedicated

2812
02:06:37,450 --> 02:06:35,030
June 3rd 1967 the Minister of Defense

2813
02:06:40,450 --> 02:06:37,460
Paul Hellyer himself cut the ribbon to

2814
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:40,460
officially open the UFO landing pad in

2815
02:06:44,830 --> 02:06:42,770
st. Paul Alberta which still exists

2816
02:06:47,950 --> 02:06:44,840
today and as a matter of fact has been

2817
02:06:50,050 --> 02:06:47,960
augmented they now have a UFO shaped

2818
02:06:53,770 --> 02:06:50,060
Museum in which the Center for UFO

2819
02:06:55,930 --> 02:06:53,780
studies UFO display with artifacts and

2820
02:06:59,950 --> 02:06:55,940
so forth is in there and the st. Paul

2821
02:07:05,589 --> 02:06:59,960
murder still has a toll free UFO report

2822
02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:05,599
number now also on June 3rd 1967 respect

2823
02:07:10,810 --> 02:07:07,520
from Aretha Franklin became the number

2824
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:10,820
one record and Anderson Cooper of CNN

2825
02:07:17,970 --> 02:07:14,690
was born Oh World's Fair something in 67

2826
02:07:21,609 --> 02:07:17,980
to I think man and his world opened in

2827
02:07:26,260 --> 02:07:21,619
1967 in Montreal which featured would

2828
02:07:28,330 --> 02:07:26,270
you believe a UFO mannequin on a you

2829
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:28,340
know on a platform as if it'd been

2830
02:07:34,030 --> 02:07:30,770
recovered from a crash site and that a

2831
02:07:36,729 --> 02:07:34,040
photos of that particular display have

2832
02:07:39,970 --> 02:07:36,739
been produced in a number of UFO books

2833
02:07:42,370 --> 02:07:39,980
having to do with the alien autopsy so

2834
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:42,380
and if the popularity of that particular

2835
02:07:47,620 --> 02:07:44,810
display might have impacted on people's

2836
02:07:50,859 --> 02:07:47,630
imaginations to some degree absolutely

2837
02:07:56,350 --> 02:07:50,869
yeah and again it's this 1967 it's very

2838
02:07:58,660 --> 02:07:56,360
remarkable 1967 what was I doing in 1967

2839
02:08:00,399 --> 02:07:58,670
I think I was putting blocks on top of

2840
02:08:06,250 --> 02:08:00,409
one another's I'm Dana Kenner over in

2841
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:06,260
wait wait wait 1967 what came out ah was

2842
02:08:13,209 --> 02:08:11,050
20 years ago today Sergeant Pepper

2843
02:08:15,100 --> 02:08:13,219
sergeant pepper's Lonely Hearts Club

2844
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:15,110
Band which came out like a few days

2845
02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:18,560
earlier okay no no that's when I was

2846
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:24,320
right it was on June 1st 1967 and I got

2847
02:08:29,910 --> 02:08:27,730
the copy of the record on May 31st

2848
02:08:30,900 --> 02:08:29,920
so there so let's see we have the

2849
02:08:35,610 --> 02:08:30,910
Beatles

2850
02:08:38,310 --> 02:08:35,620
we have alien autopsies alien bodies we

2851
02:08:39,900 --> 02:08:38,320
have Anderson Cooper Randers and you

2852
02:08:42,810 --> 02:08:39,910
have to include Anderson Cooper in that

2853
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:42,820
Rosemary Clooney and the crop circles I

2854
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:44,110
don't know what Rose Nylund kinda got

2855
02:08:47,340 --> 02:08:45,610
into this except that the guy who did

2856
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:47,350
the Chipmunks wrote a song for her

2857
02:08:51,180 --> 02:08:49,210
of course Star Trek was on then the

2858
02:08:54,150 --> 02:08:51,190
original Star Trek as well so that I'd

2859
02:08:57,900 --> 02:08:54,160
have to say that the the stars aligned

2860
02:09:00,060 --> 02:08:57,910
at the very least and this is what fell

2861
02:09:02,730 --> 02:09:00,070
out and I was working in Tuscumbia

2862
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:02,740
Alabama at a country-western radio

2863
02:09:09,090 --> 02:09:05,530
station just a few miles away from the

2864
02:09:13,770 --> 02:09:09,100
famous Muscle Shoals sound studios Wow

2865
02:09:15,870 --> 02:09:13,780
DJ and country yeah for a while before I

2866
02:09:17,730 --> 02:09:15,880
got into news and that started at the

2867
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:17,740
next station because somebody said oh

2868
02:09:22,770 --> 02:09:19,930
this guy Steinberg can put two words

2869
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:22,780
together and make them coherent why

2870
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:24,970
don't you write the ads too and I said

2871
02:09:29,820 --> 02:09:27,970
give me extra money and that took a kind

2872
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:29,830
of debate you know in those days you

2873
02:09:35,670 --> 02:09:31,810
know getting very little money yeah I

2874
02:09:40,020 --> 02:09:35,680
was just 9 or 10 years old and I was

2875
02:09:42,690 --> 02:09:40,030
living about two blocks away from where

2876
02:09:45,450 --> 02:09:42,700
the mahalik swirling and I happen to

2877
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:45,460
know Stan mahalik personally because we

2878
02:09:50,340 --> 02:09:46,930
used to ride our bikes together and

2879
02:09:53,310 --> 02:09:50,350
we're in the same school together and I

2880
02:09:55,710 --> 02:09:53,320
distinctly recall now that I went over

2881
02:09:57,960 --> 02:09:55,720
to ride my bike or ride our bikes with

2882
02:09:59,520 --> 02:09:57,970
him I rode my bike over to his place and

2883
02:10:01,020 --> 02:09:59,530
I said hey let's let's go ride and then

2884
02:10:03,570 --> 02:10:01,030
he says I can't today something happened

2885
02:10:05,490 --> 02:10:03,580
to my dad and I said okay whatever

2886
02:10:07,860 --> 02:10:05,500
we didn't go bike riding that day and I

2887
02:10:12,470 --> 02:10:07,870
we eventually lost touch for a few years

2888
02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:12,480
it wasn't until the mid 1970s when I was

2889
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:14,290
investigating starting to do with

2890
02:10:18,690 --> 02:10:16,330
serious investigations of UFOs and doing

2891
02:10:20,910 --> 02:10:18,700
some studies that I thought you know I

2892
02:10:22,740 --> 02:10:20,920
should really catalog the Manitoba cases

2893
02:10:25,380 --> 02:10:22,750
and what a better place to start then go

2894
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back to my friends the me holics we've

2895
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3006
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an interesting sidelight here from chris

3007
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Rutkowski that Stan was his childhood

3008
02:15:19,010 --> 02:15:16,500
friend yeah lost touch with him huh

3009
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:19,020
what's your age difference oh we're

3010
02:15:23,870 --> 02:15:21,360
almost the same age myself and Stan no

3011
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:23,880
holic this is interesting you know it

3012
02:15:28,340 --> 02:15:25,050
gives you this very personal connection

3013
02:15:30,350 --> 02:15:28,350
but also I think there two ways to look

3014
02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:30,360
at that number one is maybe the

3015
02:15:33,950 --> 02:15:32,370
friendship colors your perception of

3016
02:15:36,740 --> 02:15:33,960
what happened well of course my friend

3017
02:15:39,170 --> 02:15:36,750
couldn't be part of a hoax or it allows

3018
02:15:41,240 --> 02:15:39,180
you to have a closer look at this and

3019
02:15:43,610 --> 02:15:41,250
get a better insight well what it did

3020
02:15:46,160 --> 02:15:43,620
allow me to do is that when I started

3021
02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:46,170
taking another look I reopened the case

3022
02:15:52,780 --> 02:15:50,130
basically in the 1970s and the me holics

3023
02:15:55,220 --> 02:15:52,790
because of the family connection and

3024
02:15:56,900 --> 02:15:55,230
because we were friends and I were

3025
02:15:58,670 --> 02:15:56,910
friends or our parents were friends and

3026
02:16:01,190 --> 02:15:58,680
there had been some connection there

3027
02:16:03,530 --> 02:16:01,200
over the years so they allowed me into

3028
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:03,540
their inner circle so I had access to

3029
02:16:07,250 --> 02:16:05,130
talk to them and so if I had a question

3030
02:16:08,810 --> 02:16:07,260
about the case I would just drop by and

3031
02:16:10,700 --> 02:16:08,820
they would allow me into their living

3032
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:10,710
room and spend some time talking with

3033
02:16:16,340 --> 02:16:13,410
them and when so that when certain media

3034
02:16:18,890 --> 02:16:16,350
were you know wanted to contact them I

3035
02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:18,900
would fly it by them and see if they

3036
02:16:25,010 --> 02:16:21,570
were interested when Alan Hynek wanted

3037
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:25,020
to talk to mr. mahalik I facilitated

3038
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:27,810
that and yeah I suppose one could argue

3039
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:30,810
that it it colored my perception in some

3040
02:16:36,620 --> 02:16:34,290
ways but I still remain a skeptic in in

3041
02:16:40,010 --> 02:16:36,630
a lot of ways with regard to this case i

3042
02:16:42,560 --> 02:16:40,020
again i don't i'm puzzled i have all the

3043
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:42,570
evidence that one could possibly want

3044
02:16:46,820 --> 02:16:44,850
from any particular UFO case you know

3045
02:16:49,820 --> 02:16:46,830
we've got ground traces we've got

3046
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:49,830
medical records the injuries the witness

3047
02:16:55,070 --> 02:16:53,040
the location the we still have some of

3048
02:16:57,500 --> 02:16:55,080
the materials they had extent to which

3049
02:16:59,780 --> 02:16:57,510
this that was investigated and studied

3050
02:17:02,870 --> 02:16:59,790
is something you don't really find in in

3051
02:17:05,180 --> 02:17:02,880
very many cases at all like it's you

3052
02:17:07,820 --> 02:17:05,190
know Chris how you know how skeptic

3053
02:17:09,500 --> 02:17:07,830
could wrestle all this down still but

3054
02:17:11,930 --> 02:17:09,510
one of the things I'd like to point out

3055
02:17:14,060 --> 02:17:11,940
to our listeners and especially people

3056
02:17:17,180 --> 02:17:14,070
who aren't necessarily that familiar

3057
02:17:19,070 --> 02:17:17,190
with ufology is that Chris I've followed

3058
02:17:20,430 --> 02:17:19,080
your work pretty much as long as you've

3059
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:20,440
been doing it

3060
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:22,090
and I have to say that you're one of the

3061
02:17:28,830 --> 02:17:25,450
most level-headed well-spoken people in

3062
02:17:31,050 --> 02:17:28,840
the field and I would trust that if you

3063
02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:31,060
knew these people for that long and

3064
02:17:34,860 --> 02:17:33,010
you've come to the conclusion yourself

3065
02:17:36,510 --> 02:17:34,870
that something real happened I'd be

3066
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:36,520
prepared to take your word for it

3067
02:17:41,100 --> 02:17:39,010
because I do think you have a very good

3068
02:17:43,500 --> 02:17:41,110
reputation in the field in that regard

3069
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:43,510
well I I've al you that

3070
02:17:49,020 --> 02:17:46,000
thank you very much Randall I mean I

3071
02:17:51,330 --> 02:17:49,030
know that in ufology if you talk to

3072
02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:51,340
people like Tim Printy and Robert

3073
02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:54,610
Shaffer on the Devon debunkers side they

3074
02:17:58,680 --> 02:17:56,410
think I'm far too much of a believer in

3075
02:18:02,400 --> 02:17:58,690
fact Tim Printy really takes apart my

3076
02:18:05,580 --> 02:18:02,410
Canadian UFO survey every year and I sex

3077
02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:05,590
it ruthlessly so they don't consider me

3078
02:18:11,370 --> 02:18:08,530
much of a skeptic at all yet in the

3079
02:18:13,350 --> 02:18:11,380
general new falada community I'm viewed

3080
02:18:16,140 --> 02:18:13,360
as a as a bit of a skeptic and a

3081
02:18:22,470 --> 02:18:16,150
debunker because I I do go to great

3082
02:18:26,310 --> 02:18:22,480
pains to try and explain cases I know

3083
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:26,320
that there's a UFO meetup here in

3084
02:18:32,370 --> 02:18:30,250
Winnipeg and some of them won't even

3085
02:18:33,780 --> 02:18:32,380
talk to me because they they say I

3086
02:18:36,150 --> 02:18:33,790
simply don't believe some of their

3087
02:18:38,330 --> 02:18:36,160
stories you know I've been in the same

3088
02:18:40,560 --> 02:18:38,340
boat - Chris yeah of course I know

3089
02:18:42,900 --> 02:18:40,570
printing in and I'm on their mailing

3090
02:18:44,970 --> 02:18:42,910
list and actually I think we need people

3091
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:44,980
like that in the field as much as we

3092
02:18:49,919 --> 02:18:47,710
need believers and I actually find their

3093
02:18:51,090 --> 02:18:49,929
publications fairly good sometimes

3094
02:18:52,919 --> 02:18:51,100
they'll come up with some really good

3095
02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:52,929
information and then we go yeah it's a

3096
02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:54,370
good thing somebody else dug that up

3097
02:18:58,830 --> 02:18:56,800
before I got out there and said well

3098
02:19:00,900 --> 02:18:58,840
here's one of the better cases so we

3099
02:19:02,820 --> 02:19:00,910
need people like that I mean you've

3100
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:02,830
already admitted shirt this could be a

3101
02:19:07,650 --> 02:19:05,530
hoax but you've known these people for a

3102
02:19:09,390 --> 02:19:07,660
long time and I think that's one of the

3103
02:19:11,580 --> 02:19:09,400
things that changed Hynek over the years

3104
02:19:14,430 --> 02:19:11,590
I mean he started with the swot gas

3105
02:19:17,580 --> 02:19:14,440
thing but after talking to enough people

3106
02:19:19,380 --> 02:19:17,590
in person having real-life experience in

3107
02:19:21,419 --> 02:19:19,390
the field and looking at a number of

3108
02:19:23,340 --> 02:19:21,429
cases well you know what happened he he

3109
02:19:25,169 --> 02:19:23,350
said okay there's something to it and

3110
02:19:27,510 --> 02:19:25,179
started kyuho's well you know one thing

3111
02:19:29,640 --> 02:19:27,520
we should mention about Hynek with the

3112
02:19:32,130 --> 02:19:29,650
swamp gas explanation I think he was

3113
02:19:33,870 --> 02:19:32,140
kind of railroaded into coming up with a

3114
02:19:35,549 --> 02:19:33,880
snap response

3115
02:19:37,500 --> 02:19:35,559
yeah he said it he was set up no

3116
02:19:39,299 --> 02:19:37,510
question in fact in his book hi Nick you

3117
02:19:40,530 --> 02:19:39,309
a full report he describes what happened

3118
02:19:42,660 --> 02:19:40,540
oh absolutely

3119
02:19:44,370 --> 02:19:42,670
although he does also admit to being a

3120
02:19:46,770 --> 02:19:44,380
skeptic and thinking that it would be

3121
02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:46,780
solved pretty quickly case opposed were

3122
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:49,330
nerves I think to quote him and he found

3123
02:19:53,730 --> 02:19:52,000
out from his own investigations in his

3124
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:53,740
own time as a scientist in a well

3125
02:19:58,740 --> 02:19:56,560
accredited scientist too that there's a

3126
02:20:01,380 --> 02:19:58,750
lot more to the phenomena than simply

3127
02:20:02,490 --> 02:20:01,390
writing it off as somebody who had a few

3128
02:20:04,980 --> 02:20:02,500
too many beers and fell into the

3129
02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:04,990
campfire the last time I talked to dr.

3130
02:20:10,350 --> 02:20:07,330
Hynek I interviewed him a few years

3131
02:20:13,800 --> 02:20:10,360
before he died and he was getting into

3132
02:20:16,110 --> 02:20:13,810
4d UFOs were three and a half d kind of

3133
02:20:18,150 --> 02:20:16,120
like Jim Mosely did he was seeing more

3134
02:20:20,610 --> 02:20:18,160
than just so this just isn't quite

3135
02:20:22,500 --> 02:20:20,620
spaceships or maybe it is but there's

3136
02:20:24,690 --> 02:20:22,510
more involved he was seeing a much wider

3137
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:24,700
picture and I could tell you that from

3138
02:20:30,719 --> 02:20:27,010
my conversation Chris did you talk to

3139
02:20:32,219 --> 02:20:30,729
dr. Hynek at all Oh many times many many

3140
02:20:33,929 --> 02:20:32,229
times he can't see what I mean

3141
02:20:37,940 --> 02:20:33,939
yeah he came up to Winnipeg a number of

3142
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:37,950
times and in fact he wanted to create a

3143
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:41,290
Canadian chapter of cue foes up here and

3144
02:20:48,750 --> 02:20:44,770
was working with me on that and he had

3145
02:20:51,060 --> 02:20:48,760
come up for the 1979 eclipse of the

3146
02:20:53,969 --> 02:20:51,070
solar eclipse and he came up with me me

3147
02:20:56,310 --> 02:20:53,979
and his kids and we had a great time and

3148
02:20:58,980 --> 02:20:56,320
there's a one particular memory that I

3149
02:21:02,400 --> 02:20:58,990
have is where we were sitting at the

3150
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:02,410
lodge up in northern Manitoba waiting

3151
02:21:05,820 --> 02:21:04,210
for the the eclipse was gonna the next

3152
02:21:07,650 --> 02:21:05,830
day we were just having some

3153
02:21:09,450 --> 02:21:07,660
conversation about things we're looking

3154
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:09,460
out the window across the the

3155
02:21:13,770 --> 02:21:12,399
snow-covered plains and he just stopped

3156
02:21:16,620 --> 02:21:13,780
for a minute and then he said you know

3157
02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:16,630
Chris a saucer could land outside our

3158
02:21:21,460 --> 02:21:18,399
window right now and because of who we

3159
02:21:22,820 --> 02:21:21,470
are no one would believe us at all I

3160
02:21:26,219 --> 02:21:22,830
[Laughter]

3161
02:21:28,410 --> 02:21:26,229
just noticed here he was in Scottsdale

3162
02:21:31,889 --> 02:21:28,420
Arizona when he died I had forgotten

3163
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:31,899
that hmm and curiously enough I had

3164
02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:34,810
encountered Hynek before I was involved

3165
02:21:41,010 --> 02:21:38,170
in the UFO research to a certain degree

3166
02:21:43,350 --> 02:21:41,020
because my background is in astronomy I

3167
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:43,360
was you know I'm fascinated with the

3168
02:21:47,220 --> 02:21:45,010
lunar research and I was doing Studies

3169
02:21:50,161 --> 02:21:47,230
on what was then called transient

3170
02:21:52,081 --> 02:21:50,171
phenomena these are lights and and glows

3171
02:21:54,690 --> 02:21:52,091
and things that are observed on the moon

3172
02:21:57,720 --> 02:21:54,700
it turns out that there had been an

3173
02:21:59,780 --> 02:21:57,730
earlier study of transient lunar

3174
02:22:02,400 --> 02:21:59,790
phenomena by someone at an observatory

3175
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:02,410
in Arizona as a matter of fact I think

3176
02:22:06,690 --> 02:22:04,570
or a car new mexic or Alito's

3177
02:22:09,001 --> 02:22:06,700
Observatory wherever Coralie doses and

3178
02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:09,011
the director of that project was none

3179
02:22:15,001 --> 02:22:12,490
other than Joseph Allen Hynek so I knew

3180
02:22:19,501 --> 02:22:15,011
him by reputation and astronomy before

3181
02:22:22,140 --> 02:22:19,511
the the UFO connection and we had a lot

3182
02:22:26,011 --> 02:22:22,150
to talk about it interesting thing here

3183
02:22:29,730 --> 02:22:26,021
about dr. Hynek his son Joe Hynek is a

3184
02:22:32,251 --> 02:22:29,740
visual effects supervisor who won a Best

3185
02:22:36,690 --> 02:22:32,261
Visual Effects Oscar for his work on a

3186
02:22:38,970 --> 02:22:36,700
film called what dreams may come that I

3187
02:22:43,261 --> 02:22:38,980
didn't know it was an interesting family

3188
02:22:45,810 --> 02:22:43,271
and and when Alan came up to Canada for

3189
02:22:49,020 --> 02:22:45,820
the 1979 eclipse he brought with him a

3190
02:22:52,951 --> 02:22:49,030
set of binocular I had a binocular

3191
02:22:54,650 --> 02:22:52,961
camera our stereo camera rather which

3192
02:22:57,680 --> 02:22:54,660
was very fascinating and we had some

3193
02:23:00,990 --> 02:22:57,690
some great photos that were taken from

3194
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this is Robert Hastings author of UFOs

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and nukes and you're listening to the

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podcast the gold standard of paranormal

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radio this all started because I was

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just looking up the bio of dr. Hynek and

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therefore his son Joe hi nick is a

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visual effects supervisor that's all

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you're gonna say something Chris well

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you're speaking of some visual effects

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and TV and movies Twin Peaks is back on

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television what's the name of the

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character in Twin Peaks

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who is the Project Blue Book

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investigator I guess I could hear gene

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now googling as as weird I have try

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never watch the show you never watch the

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show 20 or not no no I don't even know

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what it's about

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one of the characters is actually it was

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actually a project Bluebook investigator

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it's that's an interesting connection

3354
02:29:56,179 --> 02:29:54,420
there and of course x-files is coming

3355
02:29:59,210 --> 02:29:56,189
back there's a lot of UFO connection

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02:30:02,420 --> 02:29:59,220
Fargo had a that was the second season

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02:30:04,519 --> 02:30:02,430
of the Fargo TV show had a UFO

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02:30:05,780 --> 02:30:04,529
connection it's interesting that you

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know we've gone through some revivals

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and if you put aside the you know the

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UFO Hunters kind of shows a lot of other

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programs seem to inject some UFO and

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alien content as well and that's

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interesting that that's that's coming

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around again ok new show from Robert

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Zemeckis you know Back to the Future and

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Forrest Gump called blue book on the

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History Channel it's based on the blue

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book investigation in the 50s and 60s

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that I could be good if it's done right

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02:30:42,170 --> 02:30:38,330
but it has to be done right I mean

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what's gonna be is and how its professor

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recruited by the Air Force to lead

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investigations and they cover the

3375
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sightings they investigated I don't know

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how far they're gonna go cuz it's gonna

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be a sci-fi story so I don't know what

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they're gonna present I know Jack Webb

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02:31:00,740 --> 02:30:58,319
the guy from dragnet did a show about

3380
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UFOs a long time ago what was it it was

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project UFO and it was terrible it was

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absolutely terrible I mean it ran I

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think was only one season it yeah well

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maybe yeah I'm fairly sure it only went

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one

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season but it was interesting that it it

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predated x-files it had you know a

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couple of military types sitting around

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their offices and the call would come in

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about a UFO and they would dash off

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across the country to investigate and of

3392
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course it never really went like that

3393
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every UFO they investigated was always

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conventional I remember that they never

3395
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ever saw a UFO that was unknown they

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always found the answer but they ran it

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like a police procedural which of course

3398
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is what Jack Webb was famous for mm-hmm

3399
02:31:46,330 --> 02:31:43,460
and you know I there's another

3400
02:31:48,850 --> 02:31:46,340
interesting connection here with 1967

3401
02:31:52,301 --> 02:31:48,860
and Leah the Falcon Lake case there's

3402
02:31:55,511 --> 02:31:52,311
another case in August of 1967 rivers

3403
02:31:58,810 --> 02:31:55,521
Manitoba where six witnesses separated

3404
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in location three of them were military

3405
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personnel and their corporals and

3406
02:32:06,220 --> 02:32:03,740
leading airman and so forth plus some

3407
02:32:07,870 --> 02:32:06,230
civilians there are number witnesses two

3408
02:32:10,450 --> 02:32:07,880
in particular we're interesting though

3409
02:32:13,570 --> 02:32:10,460
there was a a soldier and his girlfriend

3410
02:32:16,390 --> 02:32:13,580
driving along and a UFO flew overhead

3411
02:32:19,841 --> 02:32:16,400
and again very similar to cash Landrum

3412
02:32:23,740 --> 02:32:19,851
it flew right over the car there is some

3413
02:32:26,051 --> 02:32:23,750
heat that was felt and car actually was

3414
02:32:29,320 --> 02:32:26,061
eventually impounded by the the military

3415
02:32:32,290 --> 02:32:29,330
at a military base we have a report from

3416
02:32:34,330 --> 02:32:32,300
the military base that the the motor

3417
02:32:36,091 --> 02:32:34,340
pool took a look at the car and found

3418
02:32:38,980 --> 02:32:36,101
those some bubbling on the paint and

3419
02:32:42,070 --> 02:32:38,990
that there was some unusual dust that

3420
02:32:43,270 --> 02:32:42,080
they hadn't seen before that was on top

3421
02:32:45,190 --> 02:32:43,280
of the car

3422
02:32:49,480 --> 02:32:45,200
in a very interesting report but what's

3423
02:32:51,220 --> 02:32:49,490
curious is that there's some handwritten

3424
02:32:53,290 --> 02:32:51,230
annotations on the official government

3425
02:32:56,591 --> 02:32:53,300
documents about this particular case

3426
02:33:00,841 --> 02:32:56,601
that talked about a team that was

3427
02:33:03,551 --> 02:33:00,851
dispatched to investigate the team

3428
02:33:05,830 --> 02:33:03,561
consisted of a number of people

3429
02:33:07,631 --> 02:33:05,840
including the investigator the military

3430
02:33:10,180 --> 02:33:07,641
investigator of the Falcon Lake case

3431
02:33:12,881 --> 02:33:10,190
that were dispatched from Winnipeg in

3432
02:33:14,711 --> 02:33:12,891
the middle of the night to travel to

3433
02:33:16,930 --> 02:33:14,721
rivers Manitoba which was a four hour

3434
02:33:18,970 --> 02:33:16,940
five hour ride or something like that so

3435
02:33:20,921 --> 02:33:18,980
they could begin their investigation so

3436
02:33:24,130 --> 02:33:20,931
we actually do have documentation of

3437
02:33:27,519 --> 02:33:24,140
what essentially was a blue book or an X

3438
02:33:31,450 --> 02:33:27,529
files team that was in place in Canada

3439
02:33:33,700 --> 02:33:31,460
in the United in 1967 that was

3440
02:33:36,910 --> 02:33:33,710
dispatched to a number of locations so

3441
02:33:39,370 --> 02:33:36,920
if such a team existed in Canada

3442
02:33:40,929 --> 02:33:39,380
obviously some sort of team or several

3443
02:33:43,360 --> 02:33:40,939
teams must have existed in the United

3444
02:33:45,700 --> 02:33:43,370
States we have the documentation so what

3445
02:33:47,740 --> 02:33:45,710
really happened well obviously there's

3446
02:33:50,260 --> 02:33:47,750
stuff that has gone on on both sides of

3447
02:33:52,330 --> 02:33:50,270
the border and well we know that we had

3448
02:33:54,460 --> 02:33:52,340
cooperation with the military up here we

3449
02:33:56,860 --> 02:33:54,470
have the dew line once in awhile I

3450
02:33:59,469 --> 02:33:56,870
remember hearing a report about UFOs

3451
02:34:01,780 --> 02:33:59,479
being reported by radar people in the

3452
02:34:04,330 --> 02:34:01,790
military on the way back when I was a

3453
02:34:07,090 --> 02:34:04,340
kid some weird thing came flying across

3454
02:34:09,460 --> 02:34:07,100
Canada at 20,000 miles an hour and they

3455
02:34:11,830 --> 02:34:09,470
didn't figure it was a meteor I mean I

3456
02:34:14,050 --> 02:34:11,840
don't know how true those stories are

3457
02:34:15,790 --> 02:34:14,060
you hear things on the radio but we do

3458
02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:15,800
know that they cooperated with the

3459
02:34:19,660 --> 02:34:17,210
military and then we have the project

3460
02:34:22,059 --> 02:34:19,670
magnet memo which I'm sure you're

3461
02:34:23,800 --> 02:34:22,069
familiar with as well where we had some

3462
02:34:26,889 --> 02:34:23,810
cooperation going on with him as well

3463
02:34:29,740 --> 02:34:26,899
absolutely and and I mean the many

3464
02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:29,750
military bases in Canada were run by the

3465
02:34:34,210 --> 02:34:31,810
United States Goose Bay for example

3466
02:34:36,490 --> 02:34:34,220
operated for many many years it was set

3467
02:34:38,740 --> 02:34:36,500
up by the Americans we continually get

3468
02:34:41,950 --> 02:34:38,750
some reports in fact as I mentioned

3469
02:34:44,110 --> 02:34:41,960
before I still get official reports

3470
02:34:46,660 --> 02:34:44,120
coming through official channels

3471
02:34:49,510 --> 02:34:46,670
military channels and police channels

3472
02:34:52,389 --> 02:34:49,520
and so forth regarding cases that that

3473
02:34:54,540 --> 02:34:52,399
are being reported and I remember

3474
02:34:58,210 --> 02:34:54,550
getting at least a couple of cases

3475
02:35:01,420 --> 02:34:58,220
reported from or never seen by American

3476
02:35:03,490 --> 02:35:01,430
military operating in Canada so even

3477
02:35:05,260 --> 02:35:03,500
though Bluebook has shut down we do know

3478
02:35:07,269 --> 02:35:05,270
that the cases are still being reported

3479
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:07,279
and funneled in some other directions

3480
02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:10,010
has anything more happened with the Fox

3481
02:35:14,740 --> 02:35:13,130
Lake case because we heard the skeptics

3482
02:35:17,170 --> 02:35:14,750
were saying was a reentering Russian

3483
02:35:18,790 --> 02:35:17,180
probe or something but then how does

3484
02:35:20,590 --> 02:35:18,800
that explain someone who says well the

3485
02:35:22,510 --> 02:35:20,600
thing stopped over the lake and was

3486
02:35:25,479 --> 02:35:22,520
hovering there and was trining beams

3487
02:35:27,760 --> 02:35:25,489
down into the water I'm what do you

3488
02:35:30,939 --> 02:35:27,770
think of that case well you know Martin

3489
02:35:33,670 --> 02:35:30,949
Jacek who investigated that and great

3490
02:35:35,469 --> 02:35:33,680
detail and there's a fellow who really

3491
02:35:37,149 --> 02:35:35,479
if there was somebody who deserved

3492
02:35:37,690 --> 02:35:37,159
research or the UFO researcher of the

3493
02:35:39,940 --> 02:35:37,700
year it has to be

3494
02:35:42,250 --> 02:35:39,950
simply like Martin who you know spent

3495
02:35:44,140 --> 02:35:42,260
months investigating this one particular

3496
02:35:46,540 --> 02:35:44,150
case traveling up and down talking to

3497
02:35:48,460 --> 02:35:46,550
two witnesses one by one and eventually

3498
02:35:51,040 --> 02:35:48,470
building cases and producing reports on

3499
02:35:53,110 --> 02:35:51,050
it he tracked down more than 35

3500
02:35:54,881 --> 02:35:53,120
witnesses to this particular case all

3501
02:35:55,600 --> 02:35:54,891
independent who had never conferred with

3502
02:35:58,330 --> 02:35:55,610
one another

3503
02:36:01,240 --> 02:35:58,340
and there's no question that Oberg and

3504
02:36:03,190 --> 02:36:01,250
Printy and a few others what's his name

3505
02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:03,200
ole Zach I think was the fellow was the

3506
02:36:08,051 --> 02:36:05,570
D bunker who came up with the satellite

3507
02:36:11,261 --> 02:36:08,061
re-entry of the rocket re-entry there's

3508
02:36:14,230 --> 02:36:11,271
no question that there was a re-entering

3509
02:36:16,631 --> 02:36:14,240
chunk of debris not just a chunk but a

3510
02:36:20,171 --> 02:36:16,641
major chunk of debris at that exact time

3511
02:36:21,730 --> 02:36:20,181
at that exact location sure yet would

3512
02:36:23,261 --> 02:36:21,740
certainly explain some of the

3513
02:36:25,240 --> 02:36:23,271
observations that a couple of the

3514
02:36:29,080 --> 02:36:25,250
observations though don't jive for me at

3515
02:36:31,480 --> 02:36:29,090
all and that was the ones by two cousins

3516
02:36:33,610 --> 02:36:31,490
one was driving in a truck the other in

3517
02:36:36,790 --> 02:36:33,620
a car and they were about a a mile or

3518
02:36:39,730 --> 02:36:36,800
two apart and the one in the lead had

3519
02:36:42,011 --> 02:36:39,740
seen this object stopped and got out and

3520
02:36:44,620 --> 02:36:42,021
watched this thing move right over his

3521
02:36:47,220 --> 02:36:44,630
car and he sawed from underneath whereas

3522
02:36:50,051 --> 02:36:47,230
his other cousin stopped a mile away and

3523
02:36:53,051 --> 02:36:50,061
he saw it at a very oblique angle as it

3524
02:36:56,671 --> 02:36:53,061
moved over the his cousin's car that

3525
02:36:59,381 --> 02:36:56,681
wouldn't happen if it was strictly a

3526
02:37:00,910 --> 02:36:59,391
robbery ya know wouldn't I mean we had

3527
02:37:03,970 --> 02:37:00,920
there was other ones this may have been

3528
02:37:06,190 --> 02:37:03,980
the same one where as it went over it

3529
02:37:08,110 --> 02:37:06,200
blocked out the Stars and because up

3530
02:37:09,881 --> 02:37:08,120
there I mean the stars are incredible at

3531
02:37:11,350 --> 02:37:09,891
night out in the middle of nowhere on

3532
02:37:13,091 --> 02:37:11,360
the road you're going to be able to see

3533
02:37:16,120 --> 02:37:13,101
such as we covered with stars so it'd be

3534
02:37:17,910 --> 02:37:16,130
totally obvious so obviously some of

3535
02:37:21,100 --> 02:37:17,920
these cases yeah there are some good

3536
02:37:23,080 --> 02:37:21,110
explanations of other things but it

3537
02:37:24,310 --> 02:37:23,090
doesn't explain everything you know

3538
02:37:26,740 --> 02:37:24,320
there's no question we still have a

3539
02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:26,750
mystery this particular case since 1967

3540
02:37:31,511 --> 02:37:29,570
one of the best on record it just makes

3541
02:37:33,460 --> 02:37:31,521
you wonder what's going on

3542
02:37:35,830 --> 02:37:33,470
so Chris Rick asked you where can we

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find more your stuff the my blog is you

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calm and I'm sure the links will be

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3549
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Randall I forgot last time the man

3550
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3570
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3571
02:38:49,390 --> 02:38:46,761
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